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Row
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I have read several of these comments posted on here and I found the site by searching "runescape ruins your life" in a search engine. Why? Because it has ruined my life and I wanted to know why.

I was introduced to it by my now "Ex-Girlfriend's; little brother. Why is she now my ex? A large proportion is to due to this game and the amount of time I spent playing it even when I didn't want to.

I am 23 yrs old, I had been playing it for 13 months, first it was little flutters, couple of hours here and there, and then it got serious. For example I would go out for a drink on a Saturday or Sunday night, get in at 3am, my girlfriend would go bed then I'd turn my computer on, select a busy world, relentlessly type "Buying Unids" through to 9am, get less than two hours sleep, then get up, do a couple of hours visiting people (whilst thinking about the game) then get home and log back on. That had turned into my normal routine (not necessarily the drinking).

The arguments that this caused between my girlfriend at the time were terrible and my attitude towards her was even worse, all because I wanted to creep up the high scores list..... Which is going to get me where? In this position, left ignoring my life gradually falling apart around me and having to deal the side affects it has on you and your relationships with the others around you.

I feel ashamed that it got this serious, and even more ashamed that I used to defend it to my family members. I didn't even admit I played it to my friends, because I knew that it was a pointless non-rewarding "activity" that I had difficulty in controlling.

There is no answer for my obsession with this game. Others have commented on this site about "Subliminal Messaging". My inclination is that Jagex is owned and managed by yet another individual who has mastered the art brainwashing/product selling. It has a way of taking over your own thoughts, making you think about runescape on a daily basis, and urges you to log in whenever it is possible. I don't have a PHD or know enough about Brain Washing to fully understand the concepts that it involves, but I do know that day by day my thinking patterns, my routine, my eating and sleeping habits were all affected by playing this game. It is not to say that I have a weak character and I am in no way implying that you/your child or friend does if you/they play.

Jagex are masterminds. They have to be to have over 1m paying members, and around 10m free members (the last time I heard). How can a simple game control so many individuals from so many backgrounds?

I'm not a fat recluse aged 7-12, I'm not living in my mums basement, I am self employed and work hard in a competitive environment, and I have a strong social circle, It got me... And it certainly got my relationship. I usually proud myself in being a strong minded individual but on this occasion I have been beaten.

I did the whole "I'm quitting" thing the other day that everyone seems to think on here is sad, it's not. It's actually a very liberating experience, I kept it low key and I just told one person on my friend list. I gave them every tradable item I could, everything. What did they say to me? "Omg!Ty! u dnt knw how much dis means 2me! u rlly dnt!!!".

Disaster.

I am now as bad as Jagex. I have fed this young lad's addiction (My Ex's brothers friend). I have given him enough resources to potentially waste about 8 months of his life, and provide Jagex with £25.60 GBP, I know because I worked it out. Guilt is not the word.

If you play runescape, your child plays runescape or your friends do and you have read the definitions on this site then open your eyes and understand what everyone is trying to communicate to you. Runescape is a serious health hazard. If you don't play it then don't start. If you do, then stop. If you can see it affecting somebody you know direct them to this site.

Do not just take my advice, read other definitions left here by other people. People just don't write these things to pass time, like me they have become trapped in a world that does you no favours at all, and they feel they need to tell others to get out it while they can, as I am doing.

I alone can't advise you, I'm not special, and I can't "tele" you to "cammy", but what I can do is advise you to keep reading the advice left on this site, get a grip back on your life and stop sellin "Duel Rings" for 5k a piece..... It will get you no where, and will only cause you problems.

Who knows, people may be able to limit there playing time to a few hours a week or just when they are bored, if they can then they are fortunate.

Take a good look at this site and re-gain control.

The ridiculous amounts of time people (and I have done it) spend on a PC/Laptop could be much better spent. There is more to life than obsessivly pointing and clicking a contraption formerly reffered to as a "Mouse" to reach illusional goals that will not change a thing in your life.

Source

Hmm that's a very interesting article to be honest.

I can agree with some points.

However my major dissension is that Runescape connects you to so many people - and when used correctly you can maximise your social group.

I agree that if you play it too much you'll alienate yourself, that's bad.

However if one was in a position where is was unrealistic that one could associate with their friends in real life (maybe they are overseas, in hospital, etc. etc.) then i believe Runescape is handy in helping one to mix with their friends in real life and online - it provides a fun and interesting environment to socialise in.

In my opinion i think the saying goes here - less is more.

What i want to find out is whether or not you agree with the above article and how has it rung true for you?


row
chuck
*hides article from parents*

anyway...yes, it was a very powerful essay and to say the least, I was quite impressed with what he had to say. He makes a simple problem seem so complex. He could basically sum the articles up in a few words, "Runescape is a waste of time and gets you nowhere in life.

I agree to the fact of what you said Row how it builds a stronger "social circle." But does this social circle decline then with friends? I think one just needs to find the right balance between runescape and real life for one o be satisfied. I know I state the obvious here, but just don't take runescape too seriously. We all have limits and we know how far we can go before we start to push those limits.
Vipey
Rowan, I would like to personally thank you for this article. It effected my life for the worse. At school, I don't focus on work or anything and can't wait to get home to get on. My sleeping patterns got worse too. I find myself staying up past 11 pm on a school night. I want to quit doing this, but I know I can't. My name is Brian and I'm a Runescape addict. sad.gif
dragontx
QUOTE(Vipey @ Dec 9 2007, 11:11 PM) *

My name is Brian and I'm a Runescape addict. sad.gif

Lol @ Brian


Anyways yes runescape affected life and i quit now smile.gif time to move onto something new yes.gif
shin-akuma
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oh my god a game is forcing me to play it, ruining my life. i have not the brain power just to limit my playing time or quit!!!!!!!!!


I see things like this a lot I find it funny how they blame the game for what happens to them.

The game doesn't force you to play it, it doesn't tie you down and say play me.

if you end up becoming entirely anti social it's not the games fault it's yours in no way will a game force you to play it, you're the one that chooses to play it and overly play it there's no mind controlling involved by the game it's you who overly plays the game thus "ruining your life"
it's not all that hard to limit playing and enjoy the game and have a successful enjoyable life.


too much of anything can be bad for you now I mention that overly playing games can be bad for you but also watching too much TV, working out, drinking, working and anything really is bad for you it's not just abusing playing games that will be bad for you.

As with any of my examples or any that I haven't mentioned abuse can be avoided with moderation if you can limit doing too much of the other things you enjoy why aren't you able to do so for a game. The answer is you can and just don't.


now he mentions playing the game won't get you anywhere in life, yes this is true but it's not supposed to get you anywhere in life it's meant to be there when you're a bit bored maybe you have some time to kill to wait for something, maybe you had a tough day and need something to relax. Hey guess what the game has your back.


Personally I have played quite a bit but I've never let the game get in the way of my real life.

I've never felt I had to play and I never noticed the game controlling me.

Runescape is great for meeting all kinds of different people from all over the world, enjoying yourself and having many great and odd adventures.


Games doesn't ruin your life, if things are going bad for you it's not the games fault, the game forces you to do nothing.

If you play too much that's on you, not the game


Take responsibility for your own actions and stop blaming games when things don't go the way you want.

Moderation is key.


To answer the question: no Runescape isn't bad for you
Matt
This isn't the first articial of this type that I've read; although it is one of the more well thought out ones.

Different people react to games differently, those that become completely obsessed with them to the extent described in that artical represent the extreme minority. I would agree that if this artical represents your life style then you probably should take steps to change it - in the same sense that someone who is addicted to gambling should take steps to resolve that.

I am often confused by just how naive people are when it comes to game addiction. Why is it that when someone becomes addicted to a video game to an extreme extent it becomes the games fault? If someone is addicted to a drug, regaurdless if it is a illegal narcotic or something like tobacco or achohal, it is -always- the person that is blamed for abusing the substance, not the other way around. The same applies to gambling/sexual/power additions, it is the person - not the action that is at fault. I fail to see why this does not hold true for video game addiction as well.

Mind control? I'm not going to bother with a counter argument for that, its a rather silly statement in a otherwise somewhat well written essay.

It is truly a shame that it affected his friends, family, and lover, however he really has only himself to blame for that; following the essays logic we should be blaming achohal and not the achohalic for the effects that such an addiction has on ones social life.

Perhaps I'm slightly biased, since I met my lover, and gained a number of irreplaceable friends via RS; however this takes away from the essay as well. While he let himself fall to the point that he experienced the most negative effects of an addition, the fact that without rs I'd never had met a few of the most important people in the world too me shows that the game can have both extremely positive or extremely negative effects, depending on the attitude of the person who's playing it.

-Matt

NOTE: I added quote tags around the essay to add clarity to the post.
~Moved to debate room.
Cmafai
I agree that it can be "dangerous" but people hopefully will notice that before it becomes a full force addiction. The further in you get, the harder it is to get out, just like any other "addiction".

I have fixed the quote tags that Spartan added completely incorrectly smile.gif I read that whole post thinking the first paragraph was your own XD.gif

P.S. - Lmao at:
How to Quit RuneScape
Row
Wow a lot of great replies, both for and against, which is good to see.

Thanks spartan and cmafai for what you guys did.

I feel sorry for you brian... i reckon you should block runescape from your computer... i did that and it worked for me.. i really concentrated on school and i finished with solid marks - don't let yourself do otherwise - it will rest on your conscience forever.

Thanks Shin for your opposing points they are interesting as well.. i agree you can't blame the game, but you can associate some of the difficulties one may battle with, to the game.

And Spartan it's nice to see that you've met some great people online, as i have to, yet i believe this aspect of the online world is greatly overlooked by critics (meh parentz0rs lol) which tends to really annoy me. >:(


row
Morril
QUOTE(Spartan @ Dec 9 2007, 11:52 PM) *

I am often confused by just how naive people are when it comes to game addiction. Why is it that when someone becomes addicted to a video game to an extreme extent it becomes the games fault? If someone is addicted to a drug, regaurdless if it is a illegal narcotic or something like tobacco or achohal, it is -always- the person that is blamed for abusing the substance, not the other way around. The same applies to gambling/sexual/power additions, it is the person - not the action that is at fault. I fail to see why this does not hold true for video game addiction as well.


I've noticed this happening alot to. Especially in cases where one has a fatal accident, (Lee Seung Seop died after playing Starcraft for over 50 hours, Jinzhou, and Xu Yan [china] died after playing online games for over 15 days during the Lunar New Year holiday. ) family and even some failed law suits blame the developers of the game. Thing is these lawsuits would be looking at nothing more then People vs. McDonalds from 2003. It never is the games fault only the players mind set. (more on video game addiction here)
Video game addiction is a very intense thing. It does not only effect your health but it does effect reasoning, social status, and general mental state (as can be seen by Shawn Woolley)

It never truly is the developers fault. Its only the will of the people who use it. People only blame the actual game it self when they cant find a reasonable way to explain what they did. In no offense to any of our users blaming the game really solves nothing. It only passes the buck sort of speak, and that allows no resolve.

lol cmafai step 5 could restart the issue? wink.gif
iljets10
Out of all the addictive things I've ever used, Runescape had to have been the most addictive straight from the get-go. I agree with the article that there's just something about the game that links people who don't mind playing video games with poor graphics and repetitive actions into playing the game incessantly. Luckily for me I stopped the addiction after just three or four months, but I know my brother is still addicted as far as I know. It didn't damage my life as I've always kept academics as #1 and everything else subordinate (except on vacations and what not), but I think it's definitely hurt a lot of people's grades in school.

While it is a valid argument that it's not the game's fault that you are addictive, it is fair to say that there is an unusually addictive nature to the game that I think is only present in MMORPG's.

Just my .02.
Foo
it runied my life lol....
moogleboy07
hmm thing is. it's not necessarily the game's fault, it's teh players. If someone can't seriously limit their time or put their real life first, there is seriously something wrong.
Otter
I finish papers loads quicker then I used to because of the game and the amount of typing sometimes required.

I don't think its had any negative effect on me.
Foo
QUOTE(Otter @ Dec 14 2007, 03:27 PM) *

I finish papers loads quicker then I used to because of the game and the amount of typing sometimes required.

I don't think its had any negative effect on me.


that is an advantage....





woo 300th post lol
Plant
QUOTE(Foo @ Dec 15 2007, 10:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Otter @ Dec 14 2007, 03:27 PM) *

I finish papers loads quicker then I used to because of the game and the amount of typing sometimes required.

I don't think its had any negative effect on me.


that is an advantage....





woo 300th post lol


That is what Otter is saying. He said it had a positive effect on him.

As for me, it helped with my typing, although it did waste an awful lot of my time, although that's my fault for playing it.
Zhou
Lack of self-control is not generated by anything other than - well, lack of self control.

Except for heroin.
Techno Zork
I would definatly say that RuneScape is not the most healthy thing fitness wise. It does however develop organizational, leadership, and problem solving skills. However on the social issue I won't comment as I am really unsure. yes.gif
Melse505
It ruins your eyes smile.gif
Lol
Sir Fisher
I don't feel like being honest, so I'll instead say that the game is a boon to society and helps you intertact socially. It also teaches you important skills that can be used in future jobs.
Sour
Yes it is bad. Hence the reason I quit.
Cloud
Anything can be bad for you if you don't control yourself.
Overdoziz

Things You'll Need

* Self control
* A reason to quit the game
* Confidence
* Good Memory
* Computer Firewall
* Life

orion crown1
QUOTE(OverdoZiZ @ Dec 27 2007, 08:10 AM) *

Things You'll Need

* Self control
* A reason to quit the game
* Confidence
* Good Memory
* Computer Firewall
* Life




things i lack
  • self control
  • good memory
  • life

i am hapily retired due grately to my membership ending, when it ended i saw the golden opertunity to quit.




youhavedied
anything is bad for you if you get too much of it
Mein Kampf
Who cares. Scape > RL.
rocof
I've always been addicted to something. Game boy, movies and stuff. Since ever. I guess that's how I am.

I play runescape cuz i have nothing better to do. i'm not a very sociable and talkative person and people consider me annoying and rarely invite me for anything. I'm not happy but I'm not sad. That's how I like to live. Not rich, not poor. i don't have many friends, but I have enough. Runescape lowered bit my marks this term, but nothing i can't get back.

I play runescape because I like it but I can controll myself. I can be at school not thinking on it, doing important things not thinking on it and when I have something major to do, stop playing and go do it.

I've never been very going out and stuff, so runescape didn't ruin my life, it's just the same as it ever was.

And if I ever need to quit runescape for any reason, I think I can do it.


If you can't controll your runescape playing, it's just because your not strong enough to resist, and that's your problem, depends on each one personality.
mikey xpg
QUOTE(Row @ Dec 10 2007, 03:36 PM) *

QUOTE
I have read several of these comments posted on here and I found the site by searching "runescape ruins your life" in a search engine. Why? Because it has ruined my life and I wanted to know why.

I was introduced to it by my now "Ex-Girlfriend's; little brother. Why is she now my ex? A large proportion is to due to this game and the amount of time I spent playing it even when I didn't want to.

I am 23 yrs old, I had been playing it for 13 months, first it was little flutters, couple of hours here and there, and then it got serious. For example I would go out for a drink on a Saturday or Sunday night, get in at 3am, my girlfriend would go bed then I'd turn my computer on, select a busy world, relentlessly type "Buying Unids" through to 9am, get less than two hours sleep, then get up, do a couple of hours visiting people (whilst thinking about the game) then get home and log back on. That had turned into my normal routine (not necessarily the drinking).

The arguments that this caused between my girlfriend at the time were terrible and my attitude towards her was even worse, all because I wanted to creep up the high scores list..... Which is going to get me where? In this position, left ignoring my life gradually falling apart around me and having to deal the side affects it has on you and your relationships with the others around you.

I feel ashamed that it got this serious, and even more ashamed that I used to defend it to my family members. I didn't even admit I played it to my friends, because I knew that it was a pointless non-rewarding "activity" that I had difficulty in controlling.

There is no answer for my obsession with this game. Others have commented on this site about "Subliminal Messaging". My inclination is that Jagex is owned and managed by yet another individual who has mastered the art brainwashing/product selling. It has a way of taking over your own thoughts, making you think about runescape on a daily basis, and urges you to log in whenever it is possible. I don't have a PHD or know enough about Brain Washing to fully understand the concepts that it involves, but I do know that day by day my thinking patterns, my routine, my eating and sleeping habits were all affected by playing this game. It is not to say that I have a weak character and I am in no way implying that you/your child or friend does if you/they play.

Jagex are masterminds. They have to be to have over 1m paying members, and around 10m free members (the last time I heard). How can a simple game control so many individuals from so many backgrounds?

I'm not a fat recluse aged 7-12, I'm not living in my mums basement, I am self employed and work hard in a competitive environment, and I have a strong social circle, It got me... And it certainly got my relationship. I usually proud myself in being a strong minded individual but on this occasion I have been beaten.

I did the whole "I'm quitting" thing the other day that everyone seems to think on here is sad, it's not. It's actually a very liberating experience, I kept it low key and I just told one person on my friend list. I gave them every tradable item I could, everything. What did they say to me? "Omg!Ty! u dnt knw how much dis means 2me! u rlly dnt!!!".

Disaster.

I am now as bad as Jagex. I have fed this young lad's addiction (My Ex's brothers friend). I have given him enough resources to potentially waste about 8 months of his life, and provide Jagex with £25.60 GBP, I know because I worked it out. Guilt is not the word.

If you play runescape, your child plays runescape or your friends do and you have read the definitions on this site then open your eyes and understand what everyone is trying to communicate to you. Runescape is a serious health hazard. If you don't play it then don't start. If you do, then stop. If you can see it affecting somebody you know direct them to this site.

Do not just take my advice, read other definitions left here by other people. People just don't write these things to pass time, like me they have become trapped in a world that does you no favours at all, and they feel they need to tell others to get out it while they can, as I am doing.

I alone can't advise you, I'm not special, and I can't "tele" you to "cammy", but what I can do is advise you to keep reading the advice left on this site, get a grip back on your life and stop sellin "Duel Rings" for 5k a piece..... It will get you no where, and will only cause you problems.

Who knows, people may be able to limit there playing time to a few hours a week or just when they are bored, if they can then they are fortunate.

Take a good look at this site and re-gain control.

The ridiculous amounts of time people (and I have done it) spend on a PC/Laptop could be much better spent. There is more to life than obsessivly pointing and clicking a contraption formerly reffered to as a "Mouse" to reach illusional goals that will not change a thing in your life.

Source

Hmm that's a very interesting article to be honest.

I can agree with some points.

However my major dissension is that Runescape connects you to so many people - and when used correctly you can maximise your social group.

I agree that if you play it too much you'll alienate yourself, that's bad.

However if one was in a position where is was unrealistic that one could associate with their friends in real life (maybe they are overseas, in hospital, etc. etc.) then i believe Runescape is handy in helping one to mix with their friends in real life and online - it provides a fun and interesting environment to socialise in.

In my opinion i think the saying goes here - less is more.

What i want to find out is whether or not you agree with the above article and how has it rung true for you?


row
it dosent i no that because i dont play it 24seven
Kille
It ate my life for 18 months. The solution?

Give away 3m, drop guthan, ahrim, whip and obsidian set. hash.gif

IMO it's completely ok to play runescape, just don't let it control your social life.
count sadath
Agreed with Shin.

Moderation is key.
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