haha, here we go with another "solution" to one of the good in theory, horrible in execution new updates.

instead of limiting everyone's trading ability, why not limit those with low total skill levels? it would be fair to these people, if they are legit, they are limited to balance trades. if they are not, then there is no way these bots can make any money off of their illegal activities.

lets say the total level requirement for non-balanced trading is 1200 levels. that will take a considerable amount of time to reach. and in the process of getting 1200 levels, bots can be spotted and banned.

how bout trading between one with 1200+ total level and one with 1200- total level? only allow the higher level to trade items of higher value to the lower level, but not in reverse. (again, stopping bots from gaining anything from trading)

i've put considerable amount of thought into this, so if you have any counter points, i would like to take that and edit my solution.

Very well thought out! Though, 1200 seems rough, there are many legit players under that total, plus if you're F2P just getting over 1000 is a nightmare. It's a very solid plan though, I believe lowering the level requirement would benefit the idea further. Perhaps separating level requirements between F2P and P2P is a good idea? Having P2P be slightly higher due to P2P's ability to gain more levels through the larger amount of skills they a allowed compared to F2P players. Maybe 400 - 500 for F2P, 600 - 700 for P2P?

yes, f2p and p2p should have different level reqs.

F2P - 15 levels x 50 = 750
P2P - 23 levels x 50 = 1150

it may look a bit challenging, but i believe the reward of being able to trade however you like is worth it.
usually, a low total level player means they are newer to the game, and thus it would also prevent them from getting scammed.

it will be extremely hard for a bot to be able to achieve this without being caught.

Good idea.
It is way better than what is going on now.

I defiantly support.

yes, but remember there still are green dhide bots, they still might bypass that...

training to use dhide is bascially training one skill. sure, bots can do that.
but when have you heard of bots that are able to train to skill total of 750+/1150+?
it would require them to train for a long time, which would increase the chance of them being banned dramatically.

Great Idea the new trading system isnt any good

To be honest, I love this idea! You should consider making a topic in the Official Forums on Runescape. I think people would actually support this because this would definitely stop Real World Trading and actually make people want to train to get their levels up so they can trade. I would completely support this idea and I think Jagex should actually take this thought into consideration.

Ahah, great typo right there.


As for this, I can see a few holes, but overall a good idea.

1) What about "Skillers" with only a few highish levels?
2) Couldn't the Gold Farmers make a few "Legit" accounts, and chop yews on those?

I think it's too hard to distinguish the bots from the real players accurately, is what I am trying to say I guess.

Nice idea tho

I thought about it before but realized tat Gold Farmers would make real accounts and then cut yews and whatever else they do to get real money.

Other than the above post perfection to a horrible idea.

1. skillers that doesn't meet the requirement would not be able to do unbalanced trades.
we have to think of being to trade how we like as a privilege instead of as a right. they can skill some more to pass the requirement and thus gain the privilege.

2. sure, they'd most likely have to actually play until 1150 total level. (lets use members as an example) the legit way. if they auto, then it prolongs the time in which jagex could catch them macroing and ban them before they can trade unbalanced. if you think about it, 1150 takes quite an amount of dedication to achieve.

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Mozilla spell check says to spell it like that.

stay on topic guys.

defiantly and definitely are two different words.

Would appear that JAGeX is now doing something similar, however its based on your quest point total. Good idea though Junk

would be great to incorporate QP, total level and achievement diary.

Yes, but some people, like me, hardly do quests and the achievement diaries. But then again, if that's also incorporated then it would make people actually want to complete quests and do the achievement diaries. In my opinion Junk, I think you should post this on the Official Forums in the Suggestions page.

Maybe this suggestion could possibly make Jagex consider this idea as a possibility. Also, since this would have to make people work for their skills, I don't think people would want to use bots once they get those levels really high. It would just be a waste for them to train their character and then use bots just to be instantly banned.

Like I said earlier, this would also make people want to actually train their skills in order to have an unbalanced trade. It would almost be like an "award" per say for training hard, and I think players would actually like this. It would greatly reduce bots and RWT as well as helping benefit honest players.

Why? There are people that fairly got something from a skill, like a Legit level 3 with 76 mining just got 12k coal and he wants to sell it, but wait! he cant! the skill level is way to high, so what does he do then? his main was banned, which is exactly why he made that miner, so what now? nothing? he just spent half of month mining all that for nothing. whats he gunna do? keep selling 28 to that person until its all gone? no whos gunna want to do that? no one. bad suggestion 0.1/10

GFX Guy, do you not understand how good this would be for the whole community? One thing that Junk said, if you even read the whole thing, that level 3 could sell that 12k coal. All he would have to do is say he is selling it, and if someone with a total level of said level that is required for an unbalanced trade trades the level 3, then the unbalanced trade can take place. But if the level 3 tries to trade with the person with the total level that is required to have an unbalanced trade, it cannot happen because the level 3 doesn't have the total level to do unbalanced trades. So no matter what, he could still sell his coal if a person with the said total level trades him instead.

Besides, most level 3 skillers train more than just one level. They normally train just about every f2p skill that isn't mellee based. So with that, they could still get the total level in order to do unbalanced trades. Please read what Junk actually posted before actually posting yourself.

How about you just quit RS.

@Sour: you fail, that is all

anyway, where were we?

the trade system wasn't broken, so why did they try to fix it? it wasn't trades that were the problem, it was bots. Jagex could simply type in a few codes here and there to make scorpions or dark mages spawn around those trees and rocks.

your approach is just as bad, me and my friend make accounts for people, we make the char, level it up and get it equipment, and then give it to the person. usually we have a "pack" of items that we give the fresh account so that it can focus more on training. the packs usually include 1k iron ore 2k coal ore, 6k coins, 12 black wc axes, 2 iron pickaxes, and 4 steel pickaxes

no, we don't use bots and macros, we actually work on the accounts, now, because of your idea of "fixing" an already properly functioning thing, we can no longer do this, we stop making accounts, and people don't get a "noob" account to use for resource gathering.

the suggestion isn't even worthy of an "I don't agree" It deserves a slap on the face.

500 total for f2p, 800 total for p2p. after that change i'll agree

For god sakes Sour, all your posts are negative. go complain on an other site.

And for the idea, Jagex is already working on an update similair to this idea. Dont exactly remember where they mentioned it.

Did they ?

Junkdude's idea can be a chance for all those poor merchants that try to enjoy the game... this would surely put things right back as they were .

I proudly support.

someone clos dis topic...

Great suggestion, don't know why thats never popped in my mind. Great way to stick it to all the lame skillers out there to. But of course there would be ways for bots to get around it like training a skill in a weird area that nobody goes to. For example woodcutting/firemaking in a far off location were people do not normally travel to.

I agree with imodio, my sister is a merchant, and she always has a hard time selling stuff she buys. Right now she can really only merchant by making emerald bolt tips for profit. luckily for her, it works. She gets lots of money from it, but that really is her only way. her total level is like 100-280, its somewhere in that range, but she never trains anyting but fletching, so she will still have a hard time. I totally support your idea junkdude, besides, im almost at 1000 total lvl too, so it will work perfectly for me it will also help me help low leveled people who just started playing