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Ironman1441
Does anyone else here play Oblivion?
I have been playing it for about a week or so and it is pretty fun.

Btw does anyone know how to join the Thieves guild?
Overdoziz
My CD is broekn but it was a hell lot of fun, ganna repair it soon biggrin.gif
Matt
I love the Elder Scrolls IV. tongue.gif

There are two "Hidden" guilds, one of which is the thieves guild, the other is the dark brotherhood.

To join the thieves guild you simply have to steal something, then go to the imperial city (technically waterfront is the fastest, but anywhere will work since your just using the rest/wait command) and wait outside for 24 hours. Somewhere in that wait period you'll be interrupted by someone giving you a note - that note will contain instructions on joining the thieves guild.

To join the dark brotherhood (Assassins guild): Murder someone, doesn't matter if you get caught or not, as long as when you kill the person it says "Your murder has been witnessed by forces unknown" At the top of the screen. Once that message shows up, simply find a bed in a house/area that doesn't have guards in the same building (Fighters/Mages guild, or a inn is the easiest) and sleep for a few hours. Your sleep will be interrupted by a dark brotherhood speaker who will give you instructions on joining.

You can also become a Templar knight, which is something like a guild in the sense that you have to rise up in rank - however you'll come across this as part of the main quest. (Although you don't actually have to join the Templar knights, you get the option too.)
bling_masta8
my cousin recommended this game to me, might get it some day... biggrin.gif
Ironman1441
QUOTE(Spartan @ Jan 8 2008, 07:22 AM) *

I love the Elder Scrolls IV. tongue.gif

There are two "Hidden" guilds, one of which is the thieves guild, the other is the dark brotherhood.

To join the thieves guild you simply have to steal something, then go to the imperial city (technically waterfront is the fastest, but anywhere will work since your just using the rest/wait command) and wait outside for 24 hours. Somewhere in that wait period you'll be interrupted by someone giving you a note - that note will contain instructions on joining the thieves guild.

To join the dark brotherhood (Assassins guild): Murder someone, doesn't matter if you get caught or not, as long as when you kill the person it says "Your murder has been witnessed by forces unknown" At the top of the screen. Once that message shows up, simply find a bed in a house/area that doesn't have guards in the same building (Fighters/Mages guild, or a inn is the easiest) and sleep for a few hours. Your sleep will be interrupted by a dark brotherhood speaker who will give you instructions on joining.

You can also become a Templar knight, which is something like a guild in the sense that you have to rise up in rank - however you'll come across this as part of the main quest. (Although you don't actually have to join the Templar knights, you get the option too.)


Thanks
Now I'm in the thieves guild, dark brotherhood, fighters guild, and I have advanced all the way through the mages guild.
bling_masta8
finally started playing... seems like a pretty decent game to be honest... yes.gif

but now i got problems, i've turned into a vampire and day-light hurts, baaad... eep.gif time to get the vampirism potion, but can't be asked after looking at the ingredients required to make it...
Weekend
Did not even see this topic ohmy.gif

Yes, I play Oblivion. I absolutely loved Morrowind, and what better way than to go and get the next game?
I had a huge main file, but I got rid of it. I wanted to restart the game all over again, because I really liked the main quest, and other quests for Oblivion.
Strangely enough, I think Oblivion's main quest made alot more sense than Morrowind's.

Spoiler - My Character:
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Class - Paladin
Level - 43
Factions - Fighter's Guild, Order of the Virtuous Blood, Arena, Blades, Knights of the White Stallion, Court of Madness, Nine Divines

Oh, and no I do not use cheats.


What do your guy's characters look like?

~Weekend Dude~
Prot
i have a level 40 khajiit, maxxed like 7 skills, and completed all the guilds. it's on my 360 though. i'm going to start over again and totally max a new character.
Maarten
I played it on the pc before.. But I was so lame, I cheated my way through H.gif.

Found someone to who's going to trade his oblivion for my crackdown, so soon I'll have it for the 360, which means I can't cheat and no bullshitting about performance. Plus a great controller to play with, man.. I can't wait till I have it!

I want to get a thief.. I don't know why, but they just really appeal to me.. I might create a warrior thing though, they could be cool.. But probably a thief, even though I wasn't really good with a bow on the pc. Have to think if I want to do the dark brotherhood or thieves guild first.. Dark brotherhood gives you an awesome suit though biggrin.gif
h3n7y
Just lost my level 29 Viking (custom class) due to corrupt save file #.

The only thing I don't like oblivion is the lack of proper facial hair unless you get a mod, the facial the game comes with is just dark skin and looks stupid.
Weekend
QUOTE(Maarten @ Mar 23 2008, 03:17 AM) *

I played it on the pc before.. But I was so lame, I cheated my way through H.gif.

Found someone to who's going to trade his oblivion for my crackdown, so soon I'll have it for the 360, which means I can't cheat and no bullshitting about performance. Plus a great controller to play with, man.. I can't wait till I have it!

I want to get a thief.. I don't know why, but they just really appeal to me.. I might create a warrior thing though, they could be cool.. But probably a thief, even though I wasn't really good with a bow on the pc. Have to think if I want to do the dark brotherhood or thieves guild first.. Dark brotherhood gives you an awesome suit though biggrin.gif


Damn, Oblivion for Crackdown? Nice tradeoff biggrin.gif

Thieves are awesome, I just made one recently, you should make one.
It is really handy if you are a thief, because you can sell your stolen stuff to the thieves guild fences, and rake in tons of money. The quests are sweet too.
I have not yet joined the Dark Brotherhood, but yeah I hear their armor is awesome.
Do you know if the quests for the Dark Brotherhood are just like the Morag Tong quests in the prequel?
If they are, I would join that guild in a heartbeat.

Oh by the way, h3n7y, what mod can you download to get proper facial hair?
I want to get my guy a proper goatee, and not some cheap-spray-painted-piece-of-crap-goatee lol

~Weekend Dude~
Maarten
I wouldn't know if they were, I didn't play the prequel eep.gif Sorry.
From what I remember.. It's just an assassination mission every time. You just have to kill someone.. And I think every time there is some sort of bonus you can get if you do it in some special way.. But it's about a year ago I played it on the pc, so I don't really remember..

Probably gonna get my game tomorrow, easter delayed the mail sad.gif
Ironman1441
I finally beat everything about a week ago.
I maxed my character and rose to the highest rank in all the guilds.
I have 300,000 gold biggrin.gif

I would take a pic but it is on my 360.

BTW does anyone else have a unicorn
Maarten
OMG you can get a unicorn?! I got my game today btw. Awesome shit <3 <3 <3
Hope I can do it though, last time I played it on the pc I went incredibly lame and used cheats eep.gif Already closed 1 gate though. Yay.

*heads off to play oblivion..*
Ironman1441
Yeah its between Leyawiin and Bravil.
Once you find it you have to sneak up on it and hit "A" to ride it, then its yours for good.
But if you ever pull your weapon out around it, it will attack you.
Maarten
How did you get all those precious golds anyway.. I wouldn't mind having 300k tbh..
Ironman1441
QUOTE(Maarten @ Mar 30 2008, 04:28 AM) *

How did you get all those precious golds anyway.. I wouldn't mind having 300k tbh..

Like 3 months of hardcore thieving and cave searching.
h3n7y
http://tesnexus.com

Best Mod site.

On my new save, already top rank in dark brotherhood H.gif, working on mages guild atm...side quests are so much more fun than the main questline.

Oh and weekend, heres the beard pack:

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8405

or you can have beards that can be equipped and unequipped:

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10870



Anyway Maarten, if you've just started and want the best beginner armour, watch this http://youtube.com/watch?v=_9mN6IDyoEo
Mstr Bllr
i love this game! last time i played i had like 120+ speed, tons of acrobatics, blade, marksman, stealth, and lockpicking... i was a pro thief/assassin! no joke i wish it would've been online though...
Maarten
I'm pretty far now, level 20 with 99 speed and some other pretty high stats. Expert in sneak and acrobatics (I think), and some other pretty cool stuff anyway. Already a slayer in the Dark Brotherhood and I just met the gray fox for the thieves guild.. Not too bad I hope tongue.gif
Oh and I almost forgot, grand champion in the Arena, which was really really easy to get smile.gif
Weekend
Yeah, getting grand champion status is quite easy. Only downfall about being grand champion is the adoring fan, luckily for me, he fell off dive rock biggrin.gif

Spoiler - New Character:
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Factions: Arena

He looked alot cooler, he used to wear a deer head for a helmet, but I lost it out in the wilderness while being encumbered >.<


Probably the only thing I do not like about this game is the amount of effort bethesda put into loot. I mean, once your level 25 or something, everyone in the game has daedric stuff. What the heck? I do not know if anyone else played Morrowind, but daedric was the rarest thing in the game, and now it is sort of a joke now lol
Anyone else agree?

~Weekend Dude~
Maarten
If that's a NEW character, then how is he already level 48 mellow.gif Holy shit.
I'm only like.. level 22 or so now.

Anyway, just got Shivering Isles, even though I haven't finished the other part yet.. Doesn't matter. Are there any storage facilities on there? I couldn't find anything about housing on there on UESPwiki... That means I don't have anything to store my stuff here? Damn.. That sucks.
Weekend
Yeah it is hard to believe Maarten, that's what my brother said.

What I do is I take my character and give him the easiest major attributes (ie athletics, acrobatics, blade / blunt, block, light / heavy armor) and start using them. You may think athletics is a bit difficult, but it is not really that complex. A little trick I learned from Morrowind is to go to the nearest river (preferably one with a wall) and equip a ring that gives you water breathing. Keep swimming into the wall (underwater) and you will get your athletics jacked up. I assure you, it's not cheating! Lol
To make things easier, you could put a weight on the control. For PC, I stick a metal die on the "W" key. Since you have a 360? You could put a rubber band and wrap it around the movement toggle and see what happens tongue.gif
Anyway, the other skills beside acrobatics can be used simultaneously. Enter the arena, and breeze through it once you get the harder enemies. I think it is one or two ranks behind grand champion where you fight the three bandits. A three on one battle. Have them beat up on you to get your light / heavy armor skill get pumped up. If you want, bring a shield and block their attacks to raise your block as well. Or, if you do not like being beat up, kill them all with a weapon to raise your blade or blunt. Either way, you will get alot of levels no doubt.
Once you complete the whole arena faction, you will be able to fight creatures weekly, this is free gold and levels. Take your equipment and fight, pick the option that you want to kill three monsters and off you go.
Like explained, either - block their shots, get beat up, or kill them all.
You can keep doing this weekly, it really is not that hard.

In the beginning, if you pick armorer as a major skill, you are in luck.
Every time you get beat up, repair your armor; or, if you think there is a better way, there is.
In the Shivering Isles, do the quest "The Coming Storm", there is an artifact called "The Amulet of Disintegration" TAKE THAT. Keep equiping and unequiping it. Your armor will be breaking and breaking, that gives you the whole advantage of repairing it. Sweet eh? I got my armor maxed from one using that secret - well, it is not really a secret but still.

If you pick alchemy as a major skill, I always tried to make really good poisons. Poisons are: A) good for killing things with, B) easy to make and good for alchemy, and C) making good cash.
Some of the best poisons you can make are in the oblivion planes, use the spiddal sticks and blood grass. Cool thing is, you will never run out of them because there are so many of them! I kept finding it dreadful to run back and forth in the wilderness harvesting ingredients and never found enough. But oblivion planes are all over the place, it could not be easier.

Well, as for acrobatics, there are a bundle of ways to train it, but the best ways are just jumping off cliffs. The camp Dive Rock is probably the biggest cliff you can jump off. It sounds wrong, but I raised my level off that cliff one too many times. There are also multifarious spots on the Shivering Isles that you can jump off, there is a large waterfall near Crucible that you can jump off. BUT BE WARNED! The waterfall is very dangerous and guaranteed instant death, I would go there if you were 90 acrobatics, OR, you could wear the boots of springheel jack and see what happens.

Ah, well that is all I can tell you on how I got my combat level so high, mostly it was stuff I knew from Morrowind, but meh.

Oh and to answer your question, no there is not any storage facilities on Shivering Isles. It truly is a bummer, but there is not much you can do. Oh, and here is a little advice, do NOT put any items of yours into containers anywhere in the Fringe. They will disappear one way or another.

~Weekend Dude~
Maarten
Actually there is. I just found it on UESPwiki : click

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Can I get a house or safe storage in the Shivering Isles?

You will acquire a bed and containers that you own once you have completed either Ritual of Mania or Ritual of Dementia. The corresponding ducal quarters then become yours, and you can safely store items in any of the containers within the ducal quarters.

There are some other containers in the Shivering Isles that do not respawn and can be safely used for storage. One example is the jewelry box in Hirrus Clutumnus' house that becomes available at the end of the Final Resting quest. However, leaving items in other random containers throughout the Shivering Isles will, in general, cause the items to disappear when the container resets (see Containers for details).

Another option is to return to Tamriel and use any house(s) that you own in Tamriel. At all points during the Shivering Isles quests it is always possible (although at times somewhat awkward) to return to Tamriel (see also Will I able to return to Tamriel after starting Shivering Isles?).


Ah well, the level doesn't really matter, it's just pretty cool H.gif

Do the matrixes for the amber armor have pre-set locations or is it completely random where to find them? (other then in dungeons..) Because the enchanted amber armor is awesome, and I have no clue how the enchanting with all the soul gems and all that works laugh.gif
Emperor Josh
Haven't played Oblivion since Shivering Isles, came out, completed much all of the main quest line and the add ons and expansion; thought about going back to try again but after playing WoW and The Witcher for so long I couldn't get a hang of the aweful combat system again. Maybe someday I'll go back to it. tongue.gif
h3n7y
QUOTE(Emperor Josh @ May 20 2008, 10:22 AM) *

Haven't played Oblivion since Shivering Isles, came out, completed much all of the main quest line and the add ons and expansion; thought about going back to try again but after playing WoW and The Witcher for so long I couldn't get a hang of the aweful combat system again. Maybe someday I'll go back to it. tongue.gif



Sorry but the combat system for WoW and to be honest all MMO's that are click on enemy then randomly fire spells etc sucks, requires little to no skill at all. At least fighting in oblivion is remotely skillful.
Emperor Josh
QUOTE(h3n7y @ May 20 2008, 08:25 PM) *

QUOTE(Emperor Josh @ May 20 2008, 10:22 AM) *

Haven't played Oblivion since Shivering Isles, came out, completed much all of the main quest line and the add ons and expansion; thought about going back to try again but after playing WoW and The Witcher for so long I couldn't get a hang of the aweful combat system again. Maybe someday I'll go back to it. tongue.gif



Sorry but the combat system for WoW and to be honest all MMO's that are click on enemy then randomly fire spells etc sucks, requires little to no skill at all. At least fighting in oblivion is remotely skillful.


Ok, I wasn't intending on bringing up a debate on the combat systems, the link between WoW and The Witcher; which by the way has a simple but very good combat system, was unintentional. But as you insist... As far as I remember from Oblivion there was click to attack and right click to block, and something like C to cast spells, right?. WoW's system is far more complex; and if you've ever experienced higher than level 10 combat in WoW you'd understand this to be true. There are hundreds of spells per a class, and many abilities and potions etc. to remember to use.

I'm assuming you've maybe played a couple of hours or less of WoW or maybe not played it at all; judging by your slightly immature comment concerning WoW and other MMO's combat systems "sucking"; if you have played WoW and fully experienced it then feel free to show me a link to your character on the WoW Armory page. Up to around Level 10 in WoW I admit that it is a lot of clicking on random spells but after this point WoW becomes a lot more complex. The slow cast of a healing spell, or slight jolt of concentration can cost the lives of your entire group in many cases.

I enjoyed Oblivion because of its well thought out storyline; its combat was extremely unintrusive and to be honest seemed to be something that got in the way of the "real" part of the game.

As far "other MMOs" I have only played WoW and RS, and a few hours on Guild Wars so I couldn't give you a proper incite into the combat systems of other games out there.

Unless of course your mention of "skill" is referring to the fact that there is no "target" system on Oblivion, then I accept your apology. I was blissfully unaware that you considered this to be a skill and I humbly bow to your clearly exceptional gaming skills.
h3n7y
I have got much further than level 10 in WoW, to level 70 in fact, which as both you and I know is nothing special in this day and age. What I mean by skill involved was the fact that you do actually have to understand the theory of not standing there and taking hits to your head and chest with a little bar going down but nothing actually happening. Physically on Oblivion a hit to the chest or head can kill instantly, and with certain mod packs can take off the head etc.

http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-she...el&n=Voltar was my WoW character, I am sure most of my items are worthless now, and yes I said the combat sucks, if that isn't acceptable to you, I'll describe it as being inferior, or poor in comparison. Not only that, but was the patronising last paragraph really needed?

Anyway, Oblivion is an ok game, it is not my favourite but it certainly requires more tactical knowledge than clicking onto a target and having an ordered key tap to kill an enemy.
Emperor Josh
QUOTE(h3n7y @ May 20 2008, 11:32 PM) *

What I mean by skill involved was the fact that you do actually have to understand the theory of not standing there and taking hits to your head and chest with a little bar going down but nothing actually happening. Physically on Oblivion a hit to the chest or head can kill instantly, and with certain mod packs can take off the head etc.


Ah, ok. However my interpretation of a combat system is everything and anything that is involved in attacking, healing and defending during fight not just the use of sword/shield system; which you have to admit is far more complex in WoW even if the details of where abouts you hit someone is not as detailed. I judge the combat system to be how you fight not exactly what happens when you fight; if that makes sense? Probably not.

QUOTE(h3n7y @ May 20 2008, 11:32 PM) *

Can't say I agree with the choice of class, lol. But a 70 is nice all the same.

QUOTE(h3n7y @ May 20 2008, 11:32 PM) *

and yes I said the combat sucks, if that isn't acceptable to you, I'll describe it as being inferior, or poor in comparison.


This all depends on the specifics; there are far more things you can do in WoW combat-wise than there are in Oblivion. I can't remember ever having any problems in Oblivion combat wise; and I very much remember it being a simple click and right click game. However I've been playing games for a while now so maybe it came naturally and I missed out on the 'theory' part of it. I'm still not entirely convinced the WoW system is inferior though; I may settle for "different" tongue.gif

QUOTE(h3n7y @ May 20 2008, 11:32 PM) *

Not only that, but was the patronising last paragraph really needed?


No, it wasn't, and I apologize unreservably. I overreacted, sorry.

QUOTE(h3n7y @ May 20 2008, 11:32 PM) *

Anyway, Oblivion is an ok game, it is not my favourite but it certainly requires more tactical knowledge than clicking onto a target and having an ordered key tap to kill an enemy.


Oblivion was a very good game; and perhaps it was my familiarity with other games I'd been playing that causes me to dislike its combat system so much on the return play.

I apologize if I offended you in anyway; you're a nice guy and I didn't want any unescesary bad feeling between us. Next time I'll think to ask what you mean before 'going off on one'
Weekend
QUOTE(Maarten @ May 19 2008, 07:51 AM) *

Actually there is. I just found it on UESPwiki : click

QUOTE
Can I get a house or safe storage in the Shivering Isles?

You will acquire a bed and containers that you own once you have completed either Ritual of Mania or Ritual of Dementia. The corresponding ducal quarters then become yours, and you can safely store items in any of the containers within the ducal quarters.

There are some other containers in the Shivering Isles that do not respawn and can be safely used for storage. One example is the jewelry box in Hirrus Clutumnus' house that becomes available at the end of the Final Resting quest. However, leaving items in other random containers throughout the Shivering Isles will, in general, cause the items to disappear when the container resets (see Containers for details).

Another option is to return to Tamriel and use any house(s) that you own in Tamriel. At all points during the Shivering Isles quests it is always possible (although at times somewhat awkward) to return to Tamriel (see also Will I able to return to Tamriel after starting Shivering Isles?).


Ah well, the level doesn't really matter, it's just pretty cool H.gif

Do the matrixes for the amber armor have pre-set locations or is it completely random where to find them? (other then in dungeons..) Because the enchanted amber armor is awesome, and I have no clue how the enchanting with all the soul gems and all that works laugh.gif


Oh yeah...I forgot about that, forgot you get your own chambers after becoming duke / duchess
You have proven me wrong tongue.gif

Matrices do not have pre-set locations, it is completely random.

~Weekend Dude~
Ironman1441
QUOTE(Weekend Dude @ Apr 29 2008, 03:40 PM) *


Probably the only thing I do not like about this game is the amount of effort bethesda put into loot. I mean, once your level 25 or something, everyone in the game has daedric stuff. What the heck? I do not know if anyone else played Morrowind, but daedric was the rarest thing in the game, and now it is sort of a joke now lol
Anyone else agree?

~Weekend Dude~


yeah
soon has I hit lvl 20 I had full deadric
it was sorta depressing
I thought it would be more of a challenge
Beret
Any fans? I am biggrin.gif I am a Nord Warrior Lvl 8 :}

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Row
those pictures look amazing
Overdoziz
I still hate the fact that 90% of the game are trees, trees and more trees! (and some bushes)
I hope Fallout 3 has some more varied areas.
Maarten
QUOTE(Overdoziz @ Dec 21 2008, 02:10 PM) *

I still hate the fact that 90% of the game are trees, trees and more trees! (and some bushes)
I hope Fallout 3 has some more varied areas.

I haven't played Fallout that much yet, because it just scares the crap out of me for some reason. But The Capital Wasteland is pretty varied for as far as I'm concerned, meaning that the piles of rubble and random rocks, if not ruins all look pretty different wink.gif Also Oblivion is bigger than The Capital Wasteland, or so I've read somewhere.
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