who would you vote for out of the current presidential candidates i personally want borac(sp?) obama to win

Obama's too inexperienced.
Bydon was good, but he's dropped out.
That leaves Clinton, i guess. *shrug*

O'bama or Huckabee. To be honest, I want to start out with people that I could stand to talk, or just sit down to have coffee with.

O'bama
Romney
Huckabee
MAYBE John Edwards

Then I look at their political stances. Romney is full of ----, John Edwards is... well, you know. So that leaves O'Bama and Huckabee. If O'Bama changes his stance on abortion, he will be my favorite ( since I can't vote ).

I can't stand Hillary, all she talks about " Are you ready for change? I know I am, with false enthusiasm!". Fred Thompson doesn't seem to care, Rudy Giuliani seems to contradict himself a ton ( not to mention I couldn't stand to sit down for a coffee, he'd probably talk to much ). John McCain is just meh to me, I really don't truly know why.

Oh, and btw, it's Barack.

I personally hate Mike Huckabee's campaigning strategy. He seems to be trying to get the votes from people just because he's religious. I'm not sure how well he'd be able to separate church from state.

I support Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. Obama wouldn't be a bad candidate either it seems, except for maybe the lack of experience.

Tbh, I wouldn't worry about it, because in the end it will be about the war.

And also, I don't see why people are supporting Ron Paul, except for people joking about it on 4chan. What the hell is unpasteurized milk, silver/gold coins, legal marijuana, and more freedom to gun control going to do for this country? He's completely nuts, seeing as he has never shot a gun, or smoked weed, etc. He's just a complete, utter wierdo.

I don't have anything against Kucinich, I just disagree with some of his views.

Also, I agree with John McCain on foreign issues. He seems to be using common sense, and also, he has more experience than anyone on this campaign. I just feel like he knows what he's doing. Oh, and btw, I disagree with Mike Huckabee on a good bit of things. He is way to passionate against homosexuality, he wants to voice Creationism to much, and yeah. That's it. Also I'm unclear of his stance on foreign affairs.

I would like Rudy Guillani (sp) but he just seems like a puppet.

I would probably vote for my favorite one overall, but I'd just wait for the elections for who would be best.

RON PAUL


Jokes I don't follow it very closely but I think and would like Obama to win.

I don't know who I should support yet because I don't feel like I know enough about each candidate.

However, it seems like you people don't either.

You're falling into the propaganda against Ron Paul.

Ron Paul falls into the libertarian party. Though I don't know if I personally agree with their claims, they do warrant them. The claim that marijuana should be legalized falls under the idea that the only reason why gangs have power is drugs. If you legalize drugs, then gangs can't sell them for high prices to fund their drive-bys.

I'm not sure Ron Paul supports "silver/gold" coins, but the warrant for that is to stop inflation. As he said on Leno the other night, if we get rid of the government's power to print money, then politicians can't print money every time they need it. Thus inflation never happens.

I don't know about your unpasteurized milk claim.

Ron Paul seems to be a unilateralist, which is good.

I'm leaning either to Ron Paul, Giuliani, or McCain.

Sorry if I seemed as if that was the only thing I thought he stood for. I was just thinking "why the hell would anyone mention this anyway"? The guy is nuts. From what he is to what he believes in, nothing seems to match up. I don't understand him, therefore I shall not vote for him. But we will see as time passes.



Ehh... that's kind of true, but you truly can't predict such a thing. All your doing is making illegal things legal, and then they just do another illegal thing. Also, it doesn't help people getting high. Loss of brain cells = not good. But of course I presume you knew that. Anyway, I just don't think such a thing can be promised.



Actually, I was misinformed. Sorry. I think he actually believes that we should get silver coins out of slot machines. I don't think he means to establish gold/silver coins as a currency. But this is once again my point. Why would he even bother mentioning something as... err, silly as that?



It should probably stay that way. Or if your interested, just Google it. He seems to stress this the most of his strange claims.


ATM, I'm for John McCain. But honestly, I don't like this years turnout of candidates. Although, it really can't get worse than Kerry and Bush, right? ...right?

Stevin Colbert ehhh?
Not to sure, if anyone John McCain seems the best.

I'm probably not educated on the issues enough, but I feel Clinton would be a good candidate.

Why? Stop the war. Universal Healthcare. And other issues.

How are we going to pay for healthcare? Using all the money we saved stopping the war.

So I'd vote Clinton if I could, probably Obama next, and then Edwards.

Democrats

*I reserve the right to be completely wrong about anything I just said*

Pros and Cons of Universal Healthcare

I thought it was a good idea until I stumbled upon this.

Ron Paul

I'm a pretty heavy digg (www.digg.com) user, and the whole site's been crazy about him for almost a year now, and I was annoyed by the spam at first. Then I actually watched one of his videos and realized that everyone needs to listen to him with unbiased ears; his message is clear & true.

My dad's a die-hard fox fan boy, and he listens and believes anything bill o'reily, sean hannity or mark levin say. The main speakers are for the war, therefore my dad is for the war; He doesn't think for himself. The same problem is going on everywhere else. People who don't like him make up rumors and say he's stupid, when he's really the one with the best and most logical ideas.

Ron Paul wasn't invited to the debate on thursday, even though candidates who have raised less and gotten less votes were. Tens of thousands of people stood up & told them they would not allow them to get away with this. They were basically forced to invite him, and then Ron Paul wins the debate by 10%, as much as fox hates to admit it.

A common myth portrayed by the powers to be, Doctors in England can work where they like and get payed well to do so. You have the power to choose your own doctors instead of getting one a government assigns, and I'm pretty sure it's like this is many countries with universal health care.


When it comes down to it I don't think anything on that list would make Universal Health care worse than your current health care system.

That has nothing to do with patents...

I don't follow politics, but I would vote for anyone that is NOT proabortion, isn't a moron, and will turn the U.S.A back into a normal country.

I'm not well read on this yet, but I am favoring Ron Paul or Rudy Giuliani. I've seen some of their views and agree with most of them.

Personally I'm quite fond of Obama, but with the South still being attached to the USA it'll be a republican that wins.

Ron Paul.

I doubt Clinton is even going to make it past the primaries.



Even though I'm religious, I'd have to agree with you about Huckabee's strategy. I would not want him as a president due to his views on scientific research.

Right now, I'm guessing that either Obama or McCain will win. However, Romney has been making a comeback recently, so he is also another possibility. Personally, I would like to see Obama become president.

http://www.slate.com/id/2182073/

Giuliani isn't really a republican.

Was the same way with alcohol remember? They legalized that, now gangs aren't fighting over it anymore. Seems to me like a good idea. If it gets out of hand, just make it illegal again, np.

Personally, I don't follow the election. I don't give a ---- who wins. Makes no difference to me unless the president is like "No mor compuuters lul," or something of the sort.

so your wanting a fellon and a racist for president fellon because of houseing a fellon (bill clinton for dodgeing the draft and dodgeing the draft = fellony and racist of what she said ealier
if we pull out of the war now alquida wins
her health care system who do u think will pay for the health care? we will still pay for health care but it will be everybodys health care via huge tax increase

here are some reasons NOT to have hillary clinton

1. Fellon
reason houseing a fellon (bill clinton for dodging the draft (dodgeing the draft = fellony))

2. Racist
reason: because of what she said about MLK

3. Her health care system
reason: you would pay for everybodys health care with majorly increased taxes and all of our doctors would most likely move to a diffent contry. less and less people would go to medical school because it will not be worth it.

4. pulling out of the war
reason alquida will win if we leave now and next president will end up brining us back there

5. ending of the democratic party
reason: she is that bad

6. everything is wrong about her pollicies

http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/clintondraft.html

(I merged your topic with this one; no sense in having a whole other topic for it.)

England, Canada and France all have Socialized Medicine and it works wonders, you pay taxes but it'll work out less than paying for health insurance or paying for the health care if you don't have health insurance.
And doctors in England earn enough to live in $1,000,000+ houses and drive around in damn nice cars, not only that but they get to choose where they work, having a Social Health care system isn't a bad thing.

The only reason you're told that social health care is a bad thing is because all of those Insurance companies don't want to be put out of business.

No, it was never that way. It seems that whenever you come into a debate you never back yourself up with facts or logic. You just take bullshit and run with it. Please, at least research it on Wikipedia before you say something. Oh, and people have been drinking alcohol since it was found/brewed. I have no idea where you got that idea.

I don't think we should stop the war.
I don't like any of Clinton's ideas.

Also I don't think America is ready for a women to run our country.*

I am currently undecided on who to vote for.

*This is just my opinion

Exactly. The insurance companies are the only ones standing in the way of universal healthcare.

However unethical or immoral an insurance company's actions may be, people should inform themselves before buying insurance.

Furthermore, the countries you mentioned have less opportunities than the United States. The more you try to incorporate a capitalist company into your government, the more job opportunities you take away. The profit is then lowered, and the economy takes a hit because there's no longer an industry or stocks for insurance companies. So, in this sense, universal healthcare fails. Also, it's estimated that Hillary's healthcare plan will have a price tag of 110 Billion Dollars every year. According to FreeRice (They cited the UN), 190 Billion is enough to end world hunger.

On the issue of drug legalization, alchohol might be a bad example. You do have to realize, though, that the illegalization of alchohol only put people in jail. There were always these "secret bars" that were out there. If you legalize marijuana, sure, it WILL have negative effects. However, smoking is much more destructive to your health, apparently. Yet, if you create an industry for marijuana, the price will no longer be so high, and many drug dealers will be put off the streets because their main item is now legal.

Not that I necessarily support this, but it's an ideal. We can't know if it works until we try. Canada seems fine.

You have no idea how much MORE money it would take to withdraw out of Iraq. Sudden withdrawal would take billions of dollars. If you're willing to pay taxes upfront, I guess you should vote for Hillary. Hillary actually believes the US is SAFER because of the war in Iraq.

Mick Romney aka. Mr.Mormon

I'd vote for Romney because of 5 things

1. He's a Christian, a highly devout one at that
2. He's a Mormon, there is no such thing as a Mormon who only acts like one on a Sunday
3. I know what a Mormon values and believes, I couldn't see one of them driving America into the ground
4. When he was attacked about his campaign, he had defended, and proved that he was the one running the show for his campaign.
5. Obama swore on the Koran. The rest of America isn't ready for that yet, and with the war on Muslim extremists(which they stereotype all Muslims as extremists)there would be a bullet in his head faster than you would think.

Second option is Hillary, 2 presidents for the price of 1.

Might want to learn your candidate's name before you support him.

And voting/supporting based on religious beliefs is dumb. VERY dumb.

Really? I know more about how he will run the country if elected BASED ON HIS RELIGION. I know what he does and doesn't value. I can't say that about most of the other candidates (Democratic Waffle House anyone?)

orly?

If your a Mormon, you can't be Christian. Mormons say that they are closely related to Christianity, but that's bullshit. Here's what they believe, told by me, roughly... Mormons believe that some angel named Moroni, handed down the book of Mormon on golden plates (why? probably to sound more mystical), to some guy named Joseph Smith. The story starts off seeming just like a book of the Bible, a bit far out, but nothing to miraculous. Then it just gets weird. I honestly could not understand what the ---- was going on. Things such as "spirits" and something that gave me the urge to play Zelda happened. Mormons believe that when you die, your spirit ascends into heaven, and you become a God yourself (I don't think it's a God, but something like a "higher spirit"). There are also two other books that they believe are added on. Both are far more stranger than Mormon, but, I've never read them.

Actually, why am I telling you this?
It's stupid to elect some one according to their religion, especially in a secular nation. The correct question is:
How? How do you know?

OHBAHMAH

OBAMA. I'd crap myself if Guiliani won.

I think Obama should win. Really I'm fine as long as it isn't Hilary Clinton, but if I could vote, it would be for Barac (sp?) Obama. People argue he doesn't have enough political experience, but what America (in general) wants change. Who better for change than the guy who didn't spend years with the old ways?

Besides...do you REALLY want Bill Clinton for First Lady?

Florida isn't Gulliani state after all .

Thank goodness.

Since Florida was his big focus I doubt that he will win .

He's prolly gonna drop out.

He did, so did edwards .

i dont care who is next at lease a person that makes school shorter.

I love you.

It's Mitt. That alone lets me know your five following points are completely based upon propaganda and not actual research upon policies.

1. Is that why he is trying to minimize is incorporation with the Mormon faith?
2. He's a Mormon. A reason to not vote for him.
3. You can't see a lot of things. Including seeing past the propaganda that formed your "beliefs." I also doubt your first assertion. Furthermore, your point makes it seem that Mormons are infallible, which is absurd.
4. You're capitalizing so I'm assuming you're actually making an effort at grammar, but that was a horribly structured sentence. Good job. A candidate can run his own campaign. Whoopee! Let's vote for him right away based upon the simple fact that he shares a trait with all legitimate candidates!
5. This is the exact reason why your post shows me that your beliefs are completely obscured by propaganda. First of all, that e-mail was completely fake. You can go ahead and listen to an e-mail that has been clearly proven false. Second of all, mass e-mails are the worst and least fact-based propaganda. What's more troubling is that I don't believe you actually got that e-mail; rather, you got the information of that e-mail from some residue such as the news or your friends. If you don't even know what e-mail I'm talking about, then you have no idea what you're saying.

To perpetuate the fact that you were wrong, here's a link: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/238/

Also two liars for the price of one.



Just a curiosity, how old are you?



Actually, the US is still a highly Christian nation.



Yeah. Like how you know 1+1=3. Refer to the top of this post.

I currently support Barack Hussein Obama for President, for the following reasons:

1) Believes in the decriminalization of marijuana. (Source)
2) Does not believe in the Clinton single-payer universal health care system. Does not feel that the Massachusetts system for ensuring that everyone has health care is a fair solution.
3) Pro net-neutrality. (If you don't know what this means, look it up)
4) Most aggressive Democratic contender left who doesn't believe in the War in Iraq and would start withdrawing troops fairly quickly. (Clinton voted for the war and basically wouldn't change a thing)
5) Supports the use of ethanol and nuclear energy as alternatives to foreign oil.
6) Is against the "estate tax" cuts that were issued during the Bush administration for the wealthy.
7) Supported the efforts to build a fence by our borders in Mexico while recognizing that it's not realistic to send all 12 million Mexican illegals back to Mexico.
8) Is against the death penalty for the most part and thinks it's used too frequently.

His only weaknesses in my opinion are:
1) Lack of experience with national politics.
2) Being African-American and thus having a harder time gaining the vote in the South.
3) Being young. (Would be an advantage if the youth would actually go out and vote)


The only 2 candidates that I have a serious problem with are Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul. For those who don't know, Ron Paul plans to immediately get rid of just about every single department within Washington. For those conservatives supporting Paul, you may take issue with the fact that he supports the legalization of all drugs. Basically, under a Ron Paul administration, you would be able to walk into a CVS and purchase a nice bit of heroin to shoot up. I would be scared for my life if that happened.

It's true Gov't run programs aren't always the most efficient, healthcare probably wouldn't be much different. Still a noble idea.

How about a Clinton/Obama ticket or vise versa? Who can stand up against the might of the Democrats? Ron Paul?

Ironically enough, McCain is the only one who has a chance on the Republican side to win, and a good one at that. I remember seeing some poll a while ago saying that McCain had a 8 and 7 point lead over Clinton and Obama, respectively.

If there was an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket, I'd vote for it just because Obama was on it.

Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, and Alan Keyes don't have any chance at getting their party's nomination, for the following reasons:

1) Ron Paul is a nut case ('nuff said)
2) Nobody has heard of the other 2, especially Alan Keyes.

According to your Main Stream Media, in which you've placed your faith into, Ron Paul is in fact a Nutcase. If you actually do yourself a favor and look up information yourself, you might actually find some facts. Just because Fox news is pro-war, and CNN is anti-conservative, doesn't mean that a candidate is a nut case.

He doesn't have a chance of getting the republican nomination because the party's unfortunately been brainwashed by bush into thinking that republicans are supposed to want the war in Iraq. As it turns out, when your beliefs conflict with the people running the show, you're going to get discriminated against. The MSM has picked its candidates, and the people are therefore spammed with endorsements and reasons to vote for the people the media wants you to. Fox News wanted Guiliani to become president over the Summer, and then they wanted Fred Thompson. You might notice that they've both dropped out; and now Fox wants Romney- claiming that the rest are 'Liberals'. What they won't tell you is that Romney is no better than their hated McCain.

I'm definitely behind Obama on this one. Ah, the reasons why? To be honest, I'm too lazy to elaborate now but let's just say I see a Kennedy-like potential in him. He's young and he's not overly-religious. Too things I, personally, feel are pros.

Obama, I agree with almost all his views. clinton...., well I think being a bad president runs in the family, george bush senior was bad, then they elected george w bush, bill clinton was pretty bad, so what do you think will happen if clinton is elected? most of the people that are voting for clinton are women and homos.
Mit romney...one word to describe him-racist. for republicans I would probably chose mccain but I like obama overall

None of them.

Can't stand the republicans so I'll just access Clinton and Obama.

Obama:
Has no distinct ideas. Promises different groups of people different things (Hitler anyone?) Speaks in a stereotypical 'Black' accent when addressing the black voters, and with a middle-class white accent when addressing white voters. Too much up his own arse. Voted for the war in Iraq. Won't help America.

Clinton:
Trying to turn people against Obama rather than trying to convert voters to her. Voted for the war in Iraq. Seems to be getting voted for due to her husbands popularity.

Dennis Kucinich is the only candidate that seemed worthwhile.

Well, in response to how you address Obama, h3n7y, would you not agree that is just a strategic move on his part? The fact that he speaks with, what you call, a 'black accent' around the blacks just means he has an uncanny supply of knowledge when it comes to the art of speaking. He knows how to address certain groups. This can eventually be a dangerous thing but this man is evidently not a Hitlerian figure.

As for promising different things to different groups, you'll really have to get me some sources for that. I'm sorry but I'm not an avid follower when it comes to politics. However, I'm interested (no sarcasm intended) in what you're saying.

DENNIS KUCINICH DROPPED OUT, DISAPPOINTING DOZENS.

I want to vote for Obama, but I can't. I just don't agree with his views (War, Abortion etc.), but he articulates well, and I believe he can bring America to it's fullest. He seems more of a leader than anybody else in this campaign.