Who actually still believes in ghosts? I know they were all the rage in Victorian England, but in the current world with our scientific understanding, you can't still seriously believe in them, can you?
Trees
Feb 9 2008, 01:35 PM
OKAY SO ONE TIME I HEARD A NOISE AND THEN I REALIZED IT WAS THE GHOST OF MY OLD DOG, CHARLES III, AND HE WAS RUINING THE PILLOWS. TRUE STORY.
No, I don't. You'd be surprised how many people believe in ghosts in my neighborhood.
Zaico
Feb 9 2008, 01:49 PM
Well I do not not believe in them.
count sadath
Feb 9 2008, 05:47 PM
I don't just cause I've never seen one with my own two eyes. Movies, videos on youtube etc. do not count in my honest opinion.
Otter
Feb 9 2008, 06:34 PM
Agnostic applied to ghosts?
Broli
Feb 9 2008, 06:36 PM
Well, I do not believe in ghosts either. But there is one interesting show on Sci-fi called Ghost Hunters, and they are skeptics who try and debunk "haunted places" with science, with like EMF detectors and things along that line. It's pretty interesting to watch even if you are a skeptic.
Bliz
Feb 9 2008, 06:38 PM
ghosts? no aliens? probably
Kev
Feb 9 2008, 07:42 PM
I have never experienced a ghost haunting w/e it is. I don't think I ever will. So I vote no.
moogleboy07
Feb 18 2008, 02:46 AM
Ghosts are kinda iffy to believe in unless you've had experience with one IMO .
junkdude101
Feb 18 2008, 02:49 AM
lols who's the person that voted yes in the poll? (not me!)
toe76
Feb 18 2008, 03:38 AM
QUOTE(Bliz @ Feb 9 2008, 01:38 PM)
ghosts? no aliens? probably Definate
to think that we are the only living planet in the entire galaxy let alone universe (or Miultiverse if you think the theory true) is arrogance at its best
Phobia
Feb 18 2008, 03:49 AM
I believe they exist from personal experience and other evidence.
Cypress
Feb 18 2008, 03:54 AM
I can't help but say yes. What truly happens to us after we die, no one knows.
Silver
Feb 18 2008, 05:04 PM
QUOTE(Bliz @ Feb 9 2008, 01:38 PM)
ghosts? no aliens? probably
Come to America. We have plenty of Aliens.
I don't believe in ghosts. I don't have any evidence to prove me otherwise :-\
Plant
Feb 19 2008, 07:37 PM
QUOTE(Silver @ Feb 18 2008, 05:04 PM)
Come to America. We have plenty of Aliens.
Lol.
Zhou
Feb 19 2008, 10:44 PM
QUOTE(toe76 @ Feb 17 2008, 09:38 PM)
QUOTE(Bliz @ Feb 9 2008, 01:38 PM)
ghosts? no aliens? probably Definate
to think that we are the only living planet in the entire galaxy let alone universe (or Miultiverse if you think the theory true) is arrogance at its best
Good to know you read posts.
No ghosts.
Ian
Feb 19 2008, 10:45 PM
I don't believe in them, but I don't know if they are or are not real, nor do I care.
Crowned Gold
Feb 20 2008, 06:02 PM
I definitely do, they're lost spirits. I'd like to say from Purgatory since i'm Catholic but I'll leave it be.
Mikeob1
Feb 20 2008, 06:08 PM
I don't believe in ghosts, but I do believe in witches, vampires, and werewolves. </sarcasm>
Anyway until I see a ghost face to face (if they have faces) I'm saying no. Even if I do encounter one I would probably call myself crazy before I think I really met a ghost.
darth_knukle
Jul 27 2008, 12:10 AM
QUOTE
Anyway until I see a ghost face to face (if they have faces) I'm saying no.
That was what I used to say, too. Then, though, I began to have doubts.
I have a forest in my backyard. I was walking through it one day (note:day, not night. I don't know why people see ghosts at night. I used to say that night stimulated the human imagination. I still do, sometimes.).....where was I? Oh, yeah.
So I was walking through my forest. I notice something by my feet and I stoop to pick it up. As I'm doing so, a branch snaps off a tree and falls twenty feet down, right in front of me.
This wouldn't have been unsettling if it hadn't occured at least fifty times that week. Let me say that around my place, we have fairly calm weather most of the time.
Then I started noticing strange things around my house. Doors would open and shut by thenselves. Ok, I thought, just the pressure. You might know what I'm talking about. If you leave a door open in a room with an open window, pressure differences might cause it to open and shut by itself.
Then I bolted the door shut one day. I turn my back and hear a click. I spin around, and the door is open. Call me loony, but I've never heard of a gust of wind that could undo locks.
Other wierd things started to happen, and they still do. They've been happening on and off for the past year or so. I play the cello, a sort of large violin. I was once in one end of my house and heard my cello play from the other. There was no one else with me; my siblings had gone away on a trip and my parents were at work.
I went into the attic and found half the screws undone. I try to turn a doorknob and it feels as if someone's holding it shut on the other side. I force the door open - no one there.
The most recent one actually freaked me out. I was trying to finish some math summer work. My arm raised itself, put the pencil to the paper, and started scribbling. The scary part - I wasn't doing anything. I wasn't trying to move my arm. I tried to stop and I felt a small resistance.
So yeah, I believe in ghosts. Laugh at me. I'm used to it.
darth_knukle
Jul 27 2008, 10:25 PM
To add a little something, this morning I woke up and looked out the window.
I saw a glowing red spot on a branch, as if someone were shining a laser into my eye. From different angles the spot appeared to be different colors. Then, after a few mintues, it just dissappeared.
I blame a ghost.
RSK
Jul 28 2008, 11:08 AM
QUOTE(Plant @ Feb 9 2008, 12:00 PM)
but in the current world with our scientific understanding, you can't still seriously believe in them, can you?
Can the same thing not be said for religion?
usmc110
Jul 28 2008, 12:38 PM
QUOTE(Ian @ Feb 19 2008, 06:45 PM)
I don't believe in them, but I don't know if they are or are not real, nor do I care.
Would you care if one came into your room in the middle of the night
I dont believe in ghosts. Too much science and relgious things behind them that i just dont think that they are real.
Bliz
Jul 28 2008, 03:22 PM
QUOTE(toe76 @ Feb 18 2008, 05:38 AM)
QUOTE(Bliz @ Feb 9 2008, 01:38 PM)
ghosts? no aliens? probably Definate
to think that we are the only living planet in the entire galaxy let alone universe (or Miultiverse if you think the theory true) is arrogance at its best
I have never seen them, neither have you, there's no way you can tell so far so please don't edit my words, thanks.
Zeton9
Jul 28 2008, 06:42 PM
Not sure about ghosts. Seems very very unlikely.
QUOTE(Silver @ Feb 18 2008, 12:04 PM)
QUOTE(Bliz @ Feb 9 2008, 01:38 PM)
ghosts? no aliens? probably
Come to America. We have plenty of Aliens.
Wahahaha!!!!!
Broli
Jul 28 2008, 07:38 PM
If you are skeptical about if ghosts exist, you should watch Ghost Hunters on the Sci-Fi channel. They use science to debunk if ghosts are real or not. It's a pretty interesting show to be honest, they've found some odd things. I was a skeptic about ghosts before watching it, and now after seeing some of the things they've caught on tape and such, I'm now in the "Are they actually real?" state. Now I do believe that ghosts exist, or at least something paranormal, but then that skeptic side comes out and tries not to believe it. But you guys should watch that show sometime, it's fairly interesting. I think Ghost Hunter International is coming on every Wednesday now with new episodes if people would like to see it.
darth_knukle
Sep 19 2008, 09:15 PM
There are plenty of shows/books like that, some of them persuasive, some not.
Matthew
Sep 19 2008, 11:49 PM
Lots of kids at school say they seen ghosts. Its just an excuse of their imagination of what they think they've seen/heard.
Trees
Sep 22 2008, 03:59 PM
Anyone who says that they've seen ghosts are either looking for attention, trolling, or raving lunatics. Maybe if someone sensible would've said it first, I might actually think about it.
DukeNova
Oct 30 2008, 06:11 AM
I wear a cross necklace all the time. But, I'm not really scared of them, because I interpret them as our imaginations. I think I can beat ghosts if they come to me dang, I seem to watch too much Bleach
Also, I'm half Roman Catholic and half athiest. does that relate anything to believing in ghosts?
I am me and only me
Oct 31 2008, 11:01 AM
QUOTE(DukeNova @ Oct 30 2008, 01:11 AM)
I wear a cross necklace all the time. But, I'm not really scared of them, because I interpret them as our imaginations. I think I can beat ghosts if they come to me dang, I seem to watch too much Bleach
Also, I'm half Roman Catholic and half athiest. does that relate anything to believing in ghosts?
What?
rocof
Oct 31 2008, 07:06 PM
Noone can tell what happens to you after death (and i'm not talking about the body) but i honestly don't believe in ghosts.
ramos
Dec 6 2008, 10:15 AM
I don't believe in ghosts, but Satan, yes.
I am me and only me
Dec 6 2008, 02:00 PM
QUOTE(rocof @ Oct 31 2008, 01:06 PM)
Noone can tell what happens to you after death (and i'm not talking about the body) but i honestly don't believe in ghosts.
Oh yes they can. Your cellular metabolism ceases to function in all parts of your body and you start to decompose.
Edit:Who bumped this?
Jinhyuk-or Jin
Dec 7 2008, 03:01 AM
6 words:
I do not believe in ghosts
Cobra(Kakashi)
Dec 17 2008, 03:41 AM
QUOTE(count sadath @ Feb 9 2008, 12:47 PM)
I don't just cause I've never seen one with my own two eyes. Movies, videos on youtube etc. do not count in my honest opinion.
Theres a fun point... How can anyone really be sure if they rely souly upon their eyes? If it were that simple, that if you see it, it must be real, then this arguement would go on until the end of time.... Which it is most likely going to... People only believe what their eyes tell them, and yet your eyes are one of your least reliable tools when dealing with something that you want or dont want to be real... What appears to be a ghost to one person may appear to be nothing more than an illusion to another... It all depends on your state of mind... What makes this particular debate impossible for either side to win is the fact that "proof" is not something that is actually tangable... You can not get any "physical" proof of a spirit or illusion... And stories prove nothing seeing as those who wish to believe in ghosts will believe a story and those who dont believe in ghost will call it a lie or a hoax...
My best example of this is the "fact" that I myself have, apperntly, seen a ghost... I have no true memory of it, but my family has never stopped talking about it because they were afraid something may have really been wrong with me at first...
Spoiler - "Long Story" :
We moved into the house we live in today when I was less than five years old. I was, according to all my friends and family that were around back then, one of those kids who never learned how to lie until i was a teenager (and now i can do it as fluently as telling the truth ). About two months after moving into the house, it was now full-force winter with over a foot of snow on the ground, my dad took me out to play in the snow while my mom video taped it. About 15 minutes into it, I started just staring off toward the side of our yard, where a small line of trees seperates us from our neighbor's yard. I spent a full minute watching that patch of trees, moving my eyes, and eventually my whole head, down the line of young maple trees. My dad had been talking to me the entire time, asking what I was looking at, my mom put the camera down and ran down to see what was going on. I just kept looking at the trees, following something that, even looking back at the video, obviously wasn't there. My dad finally picked me up, turned me around, and asked me what I was looking at. I just said "I wanted to see where he was going." My dad looked at my mom, who asked "Where who went?" I said "That man with the gun, he looks like hes lost. I wanna see what hes looking for." At this point my mom turned the camera off completely and carried me into the house while my dad (who had served in the Army's 82nd Airbourne Division, clearly concerned when i mentioned a man with a gun) went over to our neighbors yard, obviously looking for some escaped serial killer or something similar... All the time my mom was inside talking with me about what I thought I saw. I apperently told her that it was just a man with a beard, a blue coat, and long gun in his hand. He just walked slowly along the edge of our yard, weaving between the trees as he went. (these obviously were not my exact words but this part was off the camera so I'm just going with the story I'v been hearing for the past 13 years or so...) My dad came back in saying no one could have been out there.
A few weeks passed and one day, while my dad was at work, I started going through some of his old army books, a common enough hobby of mine at the time. He had pictures of soldiers from WWI through to Desert Storm, but not really much of anytihng before that (still look at those ones today too, good books). My mom had been clearing boxes of my dad's stuff, handing me more of the books. When one of them was handed to me, a timeline of Infamous American Battles, I immediately said "Thats him!"
My parents had not really been thinking about the little incident out in the snow at all since it had happened, they figured it was a one time thing (which it was) and thought little of it afterwords. When I announced that the man on the cover of the book, a reinactor (spelling?) a musket and a blue over coat, was "the man" my mom was not sure what I was talking about. It took a few minutes before she realized what I meant...
By now you've most likely figured out that the person who I claimed to have seen was a Union soldier from the American Civil War... What is important about this is that, regardless of the fact that my family has a long military history, I knew of little of it aside from what I saw in the books about WWI and WWII that my dad showed me. I had never actually seen anything about the Civil War before this. I, apperently couldn't have made it up since I had nothing to go on for reference as to what he would look like (ironically, the man on the cover of this book does not have a beard, I apperently just saw the gun and coat and that was enough). My dad had deteremined that day that there was no way anyone could have actually been there either, so it was either a ghost, or I was just insane as a small child........ Im not ready to rule out either one at this point....
It wasnt until years later that I found out my great uncle actually is a Civil War Reinactor, though he often has to play a Confederate for one reason or another. The whole thing seems very ironic... The point however is that, of the people who read this, only a quarter will say they believe me and mean it. Half will say I'm making it up or just simply full of it... (Can you blame them?) And the other quarter will believe me, but side with the Half to make themselves look more sane than I do..... Make your choise now...
Ironically enough, after reading that last bit, of the half that don't believe me, most will now say they believe me simply to prove my math wrong...........
Sorry that was so long....
Basically, the point is......... wait... what were we talking about agian? .... Oh right, ghosts... The point is that you can't trust your eyes, your ears, or any other senses... You either know they exist or you know they don't... Theres no middle ground regardless of what you may say... Hope you enjoyed this little look into my early childhood... The rest wasn't nearly as interesting (well, thats not exactly true, but I cant remember other parts as clearly...)...
ddsp11
Dec 21 2008, 04:03 PM
personally, I do believe in ghosts...but mainly poltergeists o_o My neighbor's treadmill started running once, unplugged and no-one using it. I also watch those ghost shows too, so yea. I do believe in them.
sleepwalk.
Dec 22 2008, 01:55 AM
To all those nay sayers. Prove to me that there isn't Ghosts. And I'll agree with you, but until that day no one knows for sure only those who actually have seen them but people still think they're making Sage up.
Also if you don't believe in Ghosts you can't really believe in God since the things that try to prove that they don't exist are along the same lines.
Zeton9
Dec 23 2008, 11:52 AM
QUOTE(pkerdr.broli @ Jul 28 2008, 01:38 PM)
If you are skeptical about if ghosts exist, you should watch Ghost Hunters on the Sci-Fi channel. They use science to debunk if ghosts are real or not. It's a pretty interesting show to be honest, they've found some odd things. I was a skeptic about ghosts before watching it, and now after seeing some of the things they've caught on tape and such, I'm now in the "Are they actually real?" state. Now I do believe that ghosts exist, or at least something paranormal, but then that skeptic side comes out and tries not to believe it. But you guys should watch that show sometime, it's fairly interesting. I think Ghost Hunter International is coming on every Wednesday now with new episodes if people would like to see it.
I respect whoever still believes in ghosts, but... No, definitely i don't believe in ghosts, it's too bizzarre just to think that there exists unmaterial-intelligent being...
Crade
Jan 16 2009, 04:19 AM
I'd have better chances of uniting Christians and Muslims than talking to casper.
Asahi
Jan 16 2009, 10:48 PM
Nope! I believe in ESPer's, time travelers, and aliens though.
D i g N i F y
Apr 22 2009, 01:15 AM
QUOTE(Plant @ Feb 9 2008, 06:00 AM)
Who actually still believes in ghosts? I know they were all the rage in Victorian England, but in the current world with our scientific understanding, you can't still seriously believe in them, can you?
Well I believe in God, and in the Bible it says that the Holy Ghost is alive and well, and that supernatural is very much real.
Sir Fisher
May 3 2009, 12:20 AM
Just because I know some of you will have spare time on their hands....
The theory of relativity when applied to an object of specific mass (lets say a coke can) slung around another greater mass with gravitational pull and energy to bring it as close to light speed as possible and then somehow pushed beyond the light barrier (assuming infinite energy *is* possible - which it is not) and you are able to pass it through (for simplicity) the radiation barrier (not the actual name for it, I can't remember it) then maybe, hypothetically, you'll get the coke can sent back in time, possibly in a repeat cycle of a set time frame (like a dodgy CD playing the same section of music over and over again) like a ghost - yet moving in time (as observed from outside) as a constant. If none of that made sense and you desperately want to know what I'm going on about, it's explained in 'Universe in a Nutshell' by Hawking.
Anyway, thats the only vaguely possible way that I can see 'ghosts' being around.
Row
May 3 2009, 04:00 AM
That's a really interesting theory. I would subscribe to it (because it sounds cool ) but it is impossible .
david5646
May 3 2009, 04:09 PM
I believe in Ghosts because at my friends house during the night you can go downstairs and sit on the floor and watch the furniture move and it will actually be re arranged to the way it was when they moved in...
Tyranno
May 3 2009, 04:36 PM
QUOTE(david5646 @ May 3 2009, 05:09 PM)
I believe in Ghosts because at my friends house during the night you can go downstairs and sit on the floor and watch the furniture move and it will actually be re arranged to the way it was when they moved in...
INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE - GHOSTS EXIST, OR COCKROACHES ARE THE GREATEST PRACTICAL JOKERS EVER.
IN OTHER NEWS; WHY IS THE ORIGINAL FURNITURE STILL IN? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CHAIRS?
ALL THIS AND MORE IN THE NEXT EPISODE.
hogwarts100
May 7 2009, 04:28 PM
i dont call them ghosts, i call them spirits. it's all good. same thang
jac
Jun 6 2009, 02:10 PM
Too be perfectly honest. Just because Science can't prove something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I mean, if Science were to be believed in everything, then dreams, thoughts and emotions are not real.
I am me and only me
Jun 6 2009, 02:30 PM
QUOTE(jac @ Jun 6 2009, 09:10 AM)
Too be perfectly honest. Just because Science can't prove something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I mean, if Science were to be believed in everything, then dreams, thoughts and emotions are not real.
Umm, I see you're in dire need of some real science my friend. While for many a year scientists did not think emotions (dreams though? never head of anyone refuting those...) existed, or at least in "lower animals". Scientists have made up its mistake though. It's not that they don't exist, it's just their nothing special, their not exclusive to humans, and they aren't some magical romantic force people make them out to be.
No scientists don't know everything, but when we're to the point of being able to fit thousands upon thousands of transistors on the head of a pin, teleport subatomic particles, and help blind people see through brain implants, I'm pretty sure science is a good measure of what reality is and isn't.
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