Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Coding
RuneCrypt Forum > General Board > Computing & Webdesign
WARfrog
I was wondering. How DO you code i wanna learn biggrin.gif

like websites, games, etc

guides would be helpful
I am me and only me
First off, you should really learn one and stick to it until you get a good grasp of it (trust me, I can't sit steady on one thing so I don't get much done).

Second off, there are many, MANY, coding languages to learn for each specific thing. Coding languages are almost as common as "real" languages. Each language can be general (such as c++), or very specific (such as css).

For the languages you want:

1. There are many different languages for websites, and many different ways to design one. To start you off, I recommend this (html). Now, html isn't the only coding language for making a website. You can use CSS, PHP, XTML, Javascript (not to be confused with Java), and many others in conjunction with html. You can also use programs like Adobe GoLive or Dreamweaver. Now, to actually see any of this code you need a server, which you can find free ones here. For an absolute beginner I reccomind freewebs.

2. Game coding can be very difficult, or very easy. Most of the easy ones are point and click type of "coding" based mostly on switches, such as Rpg Maker. There is no standard language for games, but I think the majority are in C++ (I could be wrong). These are usually not for beginners, and if you try to start off with this, you will probably give up frustrated (unless your mind works the right way).

For flash games (most online games), you use adobe flash. Flash is very simple if you learn it right, and you can also use it for animation (flash cartoons, such as those on newgrounds). I recommend learning html though, since that is a good foundation to build upon.
WARfrog
teach html plox
Cmafai
HTML makes use of tags to display a webpage. Certain "elements" create different types of objects and will change the look of the page, or the way text is displayed. A very simple example:
HTML
<b>This text is bold</b>
<i>This text is italicized</i>
<span style="color: red">This text is red</span>

It's similar to BBCode in some ways.

Many people find W3Schools to be good tutorials so I suggest you start with them. It's also very helpful to look at other people's code to see how it works. In general, when learning coding, try to stick to the book... it'll make things easier in the long run if you have a good base to work off of.
Drerven
A great website with tutorials would be W3Schools.com
They provide starting from basic HTML all the way up to server scripting such as PHP.
They even have a lot of quizzes to test the user knowledge and have great descriptions what what everything means, what it does and how it does it. wink.gif


Designing a game is a completely different ball park and if you want to make a game to compete with the games that get released today you need an entire team that has a very specific task. Trust me I was going to school for a while for Game Art & Design and that was one of the first things that they said. The reason why is because games are so advanced today. But yea the most common programming language used today for games is C++ which is a pain to learn. For a while I was trying to learn programming and decided it's too frustrating and went to something else.

Just focusing on web design now should be more than enough because trying to learn game design and web design at the same time would be a little too hardcore for most people.
WARfrog
sweet

ONE DAy i would be as good as cmafai heh.gif
Drerven
Hahaha... just don't ever for get semicolons or brackets... it will break the entire code sometimes. sad.gif
WARfrog
actually i was thinking about between html and javascript

they both look cool biggrin.gif


whats the difference and the benefits huh.gif
Cmafai
HTML creates websites, Javascript manipulates the HTML. You can't learn anything without learning HTML first pretty much...
Drerven
True... HTML is the fundamental of any other script used for web design basically. But HTML is easy to learn in my opinion.
WARfrog
ok on w3schools i went on but what do i click? theres 2 html things.

and where do i learn it?
Cloud
Start here: http://w3schools.com/html/html_intro.asp
WARfrog
Actually i think want to lean C++

Cause my friend he skipped Html and stuff and leanred C++ and he says it's pretty easy.

So is there a good site to learn it thats Free? cause i can't find it on w3schools.

And theres class in my almost going to highschool that have a C++ Class

I want to learn C++ now so i can pass the 200 question test better biggrin.gif lol.

Edit: Then i can go to an epic college
darth irule

My friend is into this stuff. Hes in a club that goes to a computer place and they teach them stuuf like this.(he calls it the nerd club) It was ether java or C++ that he says is very very hard to learn. I know C++ has to do with skins since i have a site on invisionfree.(great place to practice what you want to learn. I would just search the web for guides and stuff. Hope this helped.

Cloud
QUOTE(WARfrog @ Nov 12 2008, 06:08 PM) *

Actually i think want to lean C++

Cause my friend he skipped Html and stuff and leanred C++ and he says it's pretty easy.

So is there a good site to learn it thats Free? cause i can't find it on w3schools.

And theres class in my almost going to highschool that have a C++ Class

I want to learn C++ now so i can pass the 200 question test better biggrin.gif lol.

Edit: Then i can go to an epic college

http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/

I wouldn't say it's that easy, though.
Drerven
You might have to go and find a book for learning C,C#,C++. I bought a book several years ago called Programmers Bible. It's a massive book you could kill somebody with if you hit them over the head with it. The web seems to only have short tutorials for very specific functions. If you really want to learn it though you have to start from the fundamentals.
Matt
Before you decide what language you want to learn, how about telling us what your goal is?

Do you want to be able to make the kinds of things Cecchi makes for RC? Do you want to be able to make a website?

Or do you want to learn how to make desktop based applications for business/games and basically get into the field of software development?

Drerven
And like I was saying earlier if your trying to create your own game you would need a team of people if you want a game that compares with modern games because they are so advanced old games are no where close to new stuff. They have specialized peoples for different aspects like graphics, mood lighting, coding, story writing, sounds, advertising, etc.
RaDave
From personal expierence HTML was the starting block i used, from there i went into PHP and then onto Java and C++


Spoiler - W3 Tutorials:


I'd send you a link to my site but its down for maintence atm. ByteUK You can take a look at the down for maintenence page if you'd like though XD.
WARfrog
The thing ceechi does is pretty cool xD, but it might be hard on my little brain lol.

Im wondering if i could make a decent living off this heh.gif
Cmafai
QUOTE(WARfrog @ Nov 30 2008, 11:13 PM) *

The thing ceechi does is pretty cool xD, but it might be hard on my little brain lol.

Im wondering if i could make a decent living off this heh.gif


If you have big goals like that, look into courses your school might offer, or even outside of school. I taught myself but its much slower. That said, I would have died if I had to learn in a class, because the whole fun of it for me is figuring out how it all works. I mean, I'm sure I'll end up with an occupation involving web development, but I still would have been better off if I wasn't too stubborn to take classes on the topic.

Definitely teach yourself all you can but don't hesitate to take classes if you want to go further with it and learn "good practice" in terms of technique, method, and styling - coding is much more a logic puzzle than it is learning a language.
Drerven
It's a very high demand job and isn't always easy to get in to. At least if you want to make a living off of web design that is.
Falln Archon
Teach yourself as much as possible, and then take your school courses and basically get an easy A. The only real reason for taking the school courses is to get the 'college credit' for it.

Not the best advice, but it's what worked for me, and if you're motivated enough to do it, it definitely works best. I learned nothing in my AP Computer Science (Java) class, and everybody who took it failed the exam except for me (who had previously learned JavaScript & PHP) and another kid (who had previously learned C++). If you don't know what you're doing before the class begins, you'll likely do poorly in the actual class. Programming isn't something I'd consider something 'teachable'. You have to figure it by yourself, in my opinion.
WARfrog
QUOTE(Falln Archon @ Jan 31 2009, 01:33 PM) *

Teach yourself as much as possible, and then take your school courses and basically get an easy A. The only real reason for taking the school courses is to get the 'college credit' for it.

Not the best advice, but it's what worked for me, and if you're motivated enough to do it, it definitely works best. I learned nothing in my AP Computer Science (Java) class, and everybody who took it failed the exam except for me (who had previously learned JavaScript & PHP) and another kid (who had previously learned C++). If you don't know what you're doing before the class begins, you'll likely do poorly in the actual class. Programming isn't something I'd consider something 'teachable'. You have to figure it by yourself, in my opinion.


i get it smile.gif
Mangr0v3
Programming is really easy, if you can get your logic flow right.

I started off with HTML/CSS/XHTML, and moved on to VB.NET, C++, PHP/MySQL, and then for school I had to learn Pascal and Java.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2010 Invision Power Services, Inc.