Unfortunately, the biggest fault that I'm aware of, is that RuneCrypt removes any influence a "retired", and a co-founder has in sporting such topics as this in the appropriate places.

To draw more users, and build loyalty to the site, why do we not provide users with cash offers towards their memberships via paypal?

If you're the Crypter of the Month, let's pay for a month or three months of your RuneScape.

And lets not by shy about it - advertise that we do this on other sites. You like us, we like you. Andy generates revenue through the ads. So let's give a little something back.

You've weathered the Crypt, so let's reap the rewards.

Only if you fund it yourself, SoT

Sounds like a great idea, and hopefully with the objectives set out, it will be a success.

Call me a noob if you will, but how does one become a "Crypter of the Month"? I might have missed something a while back, lol.

~Weekend Dude~

Weekend, there is not Crypter of the Month... I think SoT was suggesting it.

Also, SoT, Andy doesn't own the site anymore. Whether we are turning a profit or losing money each month isn't something I'm in a position to reveal, but I'm not sure how feasible this system is. It's a great idea in theory, but if it means we have to cut back in other areas (hosting, etc) I'm not sure its worth it. I'll leave it at that and let Matt come reply to this.

Oh there is not?

Haha, my bad. I was away from RuneCrypt for awhile during Winter Break I thought maybe it was already around.

~Weekend Dude~

interesting proposition

its fine as it is

everyone knows what happens when you get shitloads of new people in...

i want new people

+1

Well yea, I don't think RC has enough money to fund this tbh, not that I'm saying how much they have (`cos I don't have a clue, but still).

How do you propose we fund these memberships? The second to last line of your post gives me the impression that this would be funded by our members.

Currently there are cash prizes for our Art contests. The idea of cash prizes for contests has always appealed to me, and it is something that I've been very interested in for awhile now. IF I was able to generate profit off advertisements (I assure you the ads do not come close to providing any margin) I would be able to do much more in that area.

Off topic - @SoT
Andy does not have any more affiliation with this site then you do - I am currently the sole owner this site.

Your attitude is counter productive at best. After reading the first two sentences of your post I was predisposed against your idea. Thankfully I've always been interested in doing exactly what your proposing. I do not care about anything that happened between you and Andy, I'm thrilled to listen to any suggestions that may improve the site - and I look forward to seeing yours as much as I would any other members.


Given the current projects the staff is involved in, our current human resources to complete those projects, and your condescending attitude towards the site and members of its staff - It would not be productive to allow you to see or post in the staff forums.

I'm sure we have much larger faults then our inability to allow you to post in the staff forums. I'd have liked to have been able to discuss this on a more positive note, however your post is sporting an attitude that I will not tolerate.

How are the cash prizes for the art projects funded?

matt

Surely Runescape related cash prizes take priority over art related cash prizes?

or is that just me...?

You mean gp? That's illegal.

Yay, 3,000 posts

no, i mean cash rewards to go towards things such as rs rewards, that are earned for runescape or runecrypt related things as apposed to graphic art.

Graphic Art is a RuneCrypt related thing. SoTM/AoTM is actually our longest running and too date most successful contest.

Nobody is right, everybody is wrong.

Eh, I'm not really pro-bribery on Runecrypt.
It seems like if we had too many cash prizes we'd have 50 people who visit the site every time they can get a gift card and then not be at all productive in the community...

That's an important point!

I think for now we should stay put and just concentrate on getting things done with S.R (shamrock).

Moreover, Runecrypt's first and only cash prize has only just started, we need to road-test it first before we introduce more.

So I say: Leave it be for a while, see how the art prize turns out, and then think about the possible crypter of the month prize.

basically bad idea back to the drawing board!

I'm just throwing this here out of nowhere, but you could give "points" to people who help the site (submit guides, etc, whatever) and setup prizes they can buy with the points (small gifts, gift cards, whatever you'd like).

ps; long time no see, Kevin.

Point system yes yes, I like where this is going

awesome idea... so many different people and companies use this... it is very easy to do and to do well.

We're already working on that, but it'll probably be a while before it's done, since it's not a priority with shamrock and all.

The way I see it, with the exception of Cloud, the retired staff are retired due to their no longer being actively involved in the site. It's all well and good appearing once a year to suggest things and then disappear again but it makes it rather difficult to keep up to date with exactly what's going on - something evidenced by your not knowing the current owner despite the topic still being on the front page of the Crypt News Forum.

I fail to see how cash incentives could in any fashion produce loyalty to the site. Giving people money doesn't inspire loyalty - infact, I'd go so far as to say it inspires disloyalty. The people who join a site due to cash incentives aren't going to be there for the long haul - as soon as the money stopped being handed out they'd just up and leave. Cash prizes should be rewards for our long term members who've achieved something on the Crypt rather than a method of "hiring" new members.

If you want influence, be active. Much of the Staff's current workload is based on what members have been asking for for a long time. The coders work entirely voluntarily and are still working their arses off to try and get a mountain of new features and content finished. Instead of whining try to produce viable suggestions which we can actually act upon. Unless Matt wins the lottery or invents a money tree, he hasn't got cash to burn.





Pictures speak a thousand words and all that. As you can see, the only way we could get more Crypt related with our prizes is if we start giving them out for sensible posts in General Chat.

You have no influence here because you are
a) A royal asshole
b) A royal asshole to other sites
c) A royal asshole that I personally do not want to be associated with
d) A royal asshole that most Crypters (I would guess) do not want to be associated with.

Whoa, Rob I never thought about that way, I change my mind about what I said earlier about this being a good idea.

~Weekend Dude~

Ok this topic produced much win - in the form of another epic Rob-post and a most exciting and well versed post by Silver.

CHYAH!

Silver, I don't see anything wrong with Rob's point... but see everything wrong with yours. I guess Rob has a point, and as I mentioned in the suggestion thread, points system is a better way of doing things as its a RC currency rather than a world currency, which would be supported by those loyal and hated by those that are short-term members.

As Maarten mentioned, the points system is in the works, but it's taking a back seat until Shamrock's completed - much like my own personal project.

dont be rude, silver. you have to be nice to the mentally disabled

I this topic.

...what about my post?

That was directed at Rob? Now I got a feeling it wasn't

I believe it was directed at slayeroftime

Epic Dude.

Also just a bit of common sense here but runescape is played by children as a rule of thumb and they happen to do this thing called grow up. Your gonna get new members to replace the inactive ones just as long as the content and idea's keep coming in.

Btw silver that wasnt aimed at you...


..* is scared of silver now * *hands him a cookie*

Silver is flying on his silver missile and will penetrate your defense some time soon, you are a goner, RaDave.

Silver sees all, hears all and knows all. Do not Foxglove WITH HIM

So thats what I picked up on my radar.

Silvers post was clearly pointed at SoT lol, Silver and rob are the best of lovers Friends.

-Hides behind morril-

So that's why Rob made that forum that only Silver and Rob could use.

Hmm....

What is topic about again?














Hi Aaron!

always the rabble rouser SOT. how was the military?(isn't that where you went?) i think we need a new interface and updated material, not competitions.

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Aaron +1

Somehow I never like idea's from SoT, this one isn't different.

You have quite the talent on being able to interpret my attitude on my posts. It's unfortunate that you won't consider sarcasm on your site. I'll try to keep it dull, and sugar coat it with lulz, xoxo, and bunnies.

<3.

On-topic:

I'm currently paying for membership to a game that I have not played in over a year due to school and active duty military. 5 dollars a month isn't a loss to me, and I'd be happy to substitute that money towards RuneCrypt for member awards. I don't see how this is bribery, when it's a reward system for the efforts of an individual. It would also produce, in my opinion, traffic to the site. xoxo

Or, perhaps, for the traffic amount per page, the user who created the content would be able to receive a percentage of revenue.

ur silly

Do we really want members that come for money?

I respect how well you responded to the points made.