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Saebjorn
As all of you probably have noticed, over the past week - at least - there have been numerous accounts that were created with false identification, posted once either gibberish or an add, and then disappeared.

Whats up with this? Is there any way to stop it or something?
These are becoming a problem.
And yes, I know one pheasable option is "live with it."
Row
They disappear because the mods do their job.

I don't mind them - some of the time they are quite witty/stupid and it puts a smile on my face - and they are really harmless, only a dimwit could be fooled!
bling_masta8
What Row is saying is that it's spam created by bots... nothing to worry about wink.gif
Kev
this is normal for a forum to undergo a bot attack.
Matt
About a year ago I essentially stopped the bots by requiring administrator validation for all accounts.

As of about 3-4 months ago we've removed admin validation - we get bots. Thankfully our Mods do a rather nice job at deleting their posts quickly. Looking back I think requiring admin validation was not my greatest decision as it created a rather annoying "Waiting period" for anyone who wanted to register while they waited for a staff member to look at the validation que.

Currently we have the same security measures 99% of sites employee to combat false accounts/spam accounts. There were a few ideas going around the staff forums too see if cecchi could write up some additional security - but so far I haven't seen enough bot activity to warrant another step in the registration process.
Spire
It doesn't seem too bad (one forum I saw had a 500 post pron topic, and some bots had 1k+ posts)

I just report what I see, but i'm not too worried.
Row
QUOTE(Spire @ Mar 19 2009, 01:08 PM) *

It doesn't seem too bad (one forum I saw had a 500 post pron topic, and some bots had 1k+ posts)

I just report what I see, but i'm not too worried.


holy moses that is epic. link to forum please.

ps. naughty spiah for looking at a 500 post pr0n topic wink.gif
Bloodthir
I heard EBAS got one of them of gay towel. That was the day with the most forum views apparently.
Maarten
QUOTE(Saebjorn @ Mar 18 2009, 12:08 PM) *

These are becoming a problem.


I know that you probably don't see them as much as I do, but they've been around a LOT for at least like 3 years now, they're nothing new. But it's already been said, we can deal with them just fine. Just sometimes it takes a bit longer, but be patient, we ban every single one of them and the posts always get deleted.

By the way, don't be too sure they're bots. Personally, I think it's chinese people posting this stuff, or at least in that direction. They get paid to spam all kinds of sites, bots just can't always do the job properly.
Saebjorn
Ok, thanks. I was just checking smile.gif .
Spire
QUOTE(Row @ Mar 18 2009, 09:00 PM) *

QUOTE(Spire @ Mar 19 2009, 01:08 PM) *

It doesn't seem too bad (one forum I saw had a 500 post pron topic, and some bots had 1k+ posts)

I just report what I see, but i'm not too worried.


holy moses that is epic. link to forum please.

ps. naughty spiah for looking at a 500 post pr0n topic wink.gif

It's long since been taken down.

It was some old gfx forum, I went in the topic on accident.
It was crazy.
Row
Dam..
Drerven
Hehe bots are a pain but with the right measures they can be prevented.
I used to own a programming forum and I saw some very interesting ads until I got creative with the registration.
kreotis
Dont worry about it
Rob
Yeah Spire...accident.
Mangr0v3
Doesn't RuneCrypt have captchas? if not, why not implement ReCaptcha?
Rob
Everywhere has captchas. But captchas are about as useful as an umbrella in a hurricane.

The only way to stop a bot really is to create some form of semi random mathematical problem or question which they can't work out.

But such things are a bitch to code.
Spire
QUOTE(Rob @ Mar 20 2009, 04:00 AM) *

Yeah Spire...accident.

wtfhash.png
Beyblade
QUOTE(Rob @ Mar 21 2009, 02:22 PM) *
Everywhere has captchas. But captchas are about as useful as an umbrella in a hurricane.

The only way to stop a bot really is to create some form of semi random mathematical problem or question which they can't work out.

But such things are a bitch to code.


Not really rob:

CODE
<?php
  session_start();
  if (!isset($_POST['submit']))
  {
  $num1 = rand(0,10);
  $num2 = rand(0,10);
  $ans = $num1 + $num2;
  $_SESSION['answer'] = $ans;
  echo $num1." + ".$num2." = <form action=''  method='post'><input type='text' size='7' maxlength='2'  name='answer' id='answer' /><input type='submit' name='submit'  id='submit' value='Submit' /></form>";
  }
  else
  {
  if ($_POST['answer'] == $_SESSION['answer'])
  {
  echo "CORRECT ANSWER";
  }
  else
  {
  echo "INCORRECT ANSWER";
  }
  unset($_SESSION['answer']);
  }
  ?>


Stick that in the registration page with a few style edits and you're away tongue.gif
Dont trust me? Get Cmafai to go over it
Rob
Heh. That would be far simpler than the way I had planned. I'd have just created a load of unique questions and preloaded them on the server with an associated solution.
WARfrog
for one of the answers, just to piss people off make it 1+1 = 3

because when a mommy and a daddy......
Row
QUOTE(WARfrog @ Mar 24 2009, 01:54 PM) *

for one of the answers, just to piss people off make it 1+1 = 3

because when a mommy and a daddy......


L O L. ph34r.gif That would be naughty.
Matt
I do not feel that our current rate of 2-3 bots a night warrants adding an extra step to registration.
Row
I agree Matty. Plus they aren't that harmful - most are just funny.
Cmafai
We had an anti-spam measure on the "Help Me" forum that worked 100% to stop bots, that I could also put in place in the other forums (if it is a members first time posting). Looked like this:

IPB Image

I suppose the email field would be pointless outside of the Help Me forum...

And Beyblade, your solution looks nice but please please please.... WHY $_SESSION variables? I have yet to ever use them in any code of mine, and I fail to see the necessity. Also, this is just me being a picky bastard, but condense your code sad.gif Entire lines should not be wasted with one bracket, etc </rant>


bling_masta8
QUOTE(Cmafai @ Mar 25 2009, 04:33 PM) *

We had an anti-spam measure on the "Help Me" forum that worked 100% to stop bots, that I could also put in place in the other forums (if it is a members first time posting). Looked like this:

IPB Image

I suppose the email field would be pointless outside of the Help Me forum...

And Beyblade, your solution looks nice but please please please.... WHY $_SESSION variables? I have yet to ever use them in any code of mine, and I fail to see the necessity. Also, this is just me being a picky bastard, but condense your code sad.gif Entire lines should not be wasted with one bracket, etc </rant>

Maybe put it up for those with less than 100 posts? In that way the bots get caught out and actual members don't.
Matt
QUOTE(bling_masta8 @ Mar 25 2009, 02:04 PM) *

QUOTE(Cmafai @ Mar 25 2009, 04:33 PM) *

We had an anti-spam measure on the "Help Me" forum that worked 100% to stop bots, that I could also put in place in the other forums (if it is a members first time posting). Looked like this:

IPB Image

I suppose the email field would be pointless outside of the Help Me forum...

And Beyblade, your solution looks nice but please please please.... WHY $_SESSION variables? I have yet to ever use them in any code of mine, and I fail to see the necessity. Also, this is just me being a picky bastard, but condense your code sad.gif Entire lines should not be wasted with one bracket, etc </rant>

Maybe put it up for those with less than 100 posts? In that way the bots get caught out and actual members don't.


As i've already stated - I do not feel the problem is close to large enough to warrant an extra step in the registration process. Adding a security challenge to post at select forums would be extremely annoying to a new member imo.
Kev
Yeah, don't you guys listen to Matt
Rob
Naw. He's just here to pay the bills and look pretty.
Phishiy
this is quite a popular topic blink.gif
anyway i do not think bots are a problem as i think someone said i find the quite funny tongue.gif
Otter
QUOTE(Rob @ Mar 20 2009, 07:00 AM) *

Yeah Spire...accident.


wink.gif

I like the bot activity. It provides a good anger outlet.
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