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Benjy
Well, the topic is the question. I believe that celebrities who get payed 6/7 figures for making a movie or two a year and appearing on a couple talk shows are a drain on society. As role models, you couldn't ask for any worse people, constantly drunk and/or stoned making dumbass comments to whoever will listen to them while they try to salvage a pathetic semblance of credibility.

Now, I'm not saying that I hate movies, but I believe that people who make a couple movies shouldn't be the people that the general public goes crazy over to see walking down a street, they shouldn't be the epicenter of society.

Then again, there are quite a lot of celebrities who go out of their way to give to charities, support causes and all that jazz, but really, they're totally outnumbered by the idiots.

So, do you think by becoming a celebrity you should have to clean up your act, or do you believe things are fine as is.

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Row
Being a celebrity is about being rich and famous. Other qualities such as being good looking, ridiculously ridiculous, one-of-a-kind, egotistical, ruthless, fantastic at some certain thing, all aid in developing and maintaining wealth and status.
If you think that celebrities are role-models than you are sorely mistaken (I know this may be arguing against popular belief - but come on - we aren't all idiots here).
Who told you they were your role models?
Why do you class them as role models?
Why do you accept them as your role models?
Once you understand that celebrities are not role-models - they are simply celebrities - you'll be able to move on from this whole celebrity-hating thing.
Furthermore,
QUOTE
that people who make a couple movies
is really quite a misconception. Show me a celebrity who has 'made a couple of movies' and I'll show you a producer/director who is definitely not causing the general public to go crazy over him/her.
Finally, the quote:
QUOTE
that people who make[sic]a couple movies
is a horribly biased misconception which seeks to influence the reader's thought and honestly does not portray a justified and correct scenario. I think you should refine your theory before you go on.

(Sorry if I am waffling or simply not making sense... but I have already had a decent amount of lectures and tutorials today at College and I am mentally fatigued).
Drerven
People hang on to every thread of celebrities and obsessed over everything they do hence the paparazzi. They take not of everything they do then write about it in magazine articles which little boys and girls read. So of course they aren't always getting the best information. Then the little kids get the idea that they need to buy the celebrities clothes lines perfumes colognes and think they need to buy jewelry and cars... so maybe they should clean up... oh wait I'm tired as Phoronida and I'm ranting... don't know if this will make sense later...

peace out.
Benjy
QUOTE(Row @ Sep 21 2009, 04:54 PM) *

Being a celebrity is about being rich and famous. Other qualities such as being good looking, ridiculously ridiculous, one-of-a-kind, egotistical, ruthless, fantastic at some certain thing, all aid in developing and maintaining wealth and status.
If you think that celebrities are role-models than you are sorely mistaken (I know this may be arguing against popular belief - but come on - we aren't all idiots here).
Who told you they were your role models?
Why do you class them as role models?
Why do you accept them as your role models?
Once you understand that celebrities are not role-models - they are simply celebrities - you'll be able to move on from this whole celebrity-hating thing.
Furthermore,
QUOTE
that people who make a couple movies
is really quite a misconception. Show me a celebrity who has 'made a couple of movies' and I'll show you a producer/director who is definitely not causing the general public to go crazy over him/her.
Finally, the quote:
QUOTE
that people who make[sic]a couple movies
is a horribly biased misconception which seeks to influence the reader's thought and honestly does not portray a justified and correct scenario. I think you should refine your theory before you go on.

(Sorry if I am waffling or simply not making sense... but I have already had a decent amount of lectures and tutorials today at College and I am mentally fatigued).


As for "makes a couple of movies", I meant to say, makes a couple of movies per yer.

As for 'role models', when someone gains an amount of fame, they gather a following, who, using sheep-like mentalities, follow their behavior and mannerisms, maybe role model wasn't the best word, but it has the intended connotations
Row
Well then the problem does not lie with the celebrity - it lies with the suckers that possess the unlucky trait of a sheep-like mentality.
Phishiy
Meh,

I honestly don't care
Rob
This reminds me of a politics essay a friend and I did about the concept of celebrity in a Marxist society (Not even slightly specific I know.) and we basically arrived at the conclusion that it's basically impossible to achieve a society without some form of celebrity, even if it's by coincidence rather than by design.

As to the question you're posing, it rather depends on your definition of celebrity. From it's roots of one who is celebrated or acclaimed, it's easy to define any number of worthwhile celebrities such as Steven Hawking, Robert Winston, Richard Dawkins etc. Even the entertainers amongst celebrities have the ronseal quality of doing what their name suggests - offering people a small respite from everyday life in which they can retreat into the world as seen by the entertainer. The only celebrities who offer nothing and yet seem to be the most revered are the socialites.

As for the concept of celebrities as role models, I offer the same argument to that as I do to the idea of sportspeople or teachers as role models: they're only people.
Broli
It sounds more like you are talking about movie stars. There's somewhat of a difference between movie stars and celebrities, at least to me. When I think of celebrities, I think more of the lines of famous people who are just rich or have a high status - like Bill Gates or the Pope. I don't know, that's just me.

But I think people who drool over movie stars are pathetic. One thing I don't like about movie stars is that they make millions just from acting. Yea acting can be fun, but seriously making that amount of money is absurd to me when people doing dangerous jobs get paid jack.

There's people across the world doing dangerous and life threatening jobs hardly making any money at all. Take the police and firemen. They risk their lives with their jobs day in and day out but hardly make any money at all.

Consider what teachers actually do for once. They spend more time with us than our parents do. They teach us the basics and fundamentals that we need to know to survive in the world. They teach us very high educated material that can come in handy with our jobs in life. They are basically preparing us for life is what I'm getting at. The money they make, at least around here that I know, is around $30,000-$40,000 a year.

While they teach us every little thing we need to know, movie stars doing hardly anything but just entertain are making in the high six digits or even millions. That's just screwed up in my book.
Bloodthir
Some movie stars are cool beans. H.gif. Although, if they're hispanic movie stars that are cool, I guess they're just regular beans.

Anyways, check out "Fame Junkies" for more.
Smoby
I was once annoyed by the whole culture you attempted to describe, but now I just ignore it. I suggest you do the same.
Kev
No, they are regular people just like us who a lot of people know and make a lot of money. No one should look up to them in the first place.
Catchowmein
I wouldn't call Celebrities a Drain on Society, a lot of Actors and Musicians namely give a lot to charity. So at least they're doing something useful with their wealth.
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