We have not had a really good debate in some time.

Barak Obama - Is he putting the country on the right track? Is he doing everything that he can? Is he being effective as the president?

I ask these questions because I was initially very supportive of him, and the things that he said he would set out to do. The problem is I've recently heard he's accomplished exactly none of his initial goals - the goals that were (Hopefully) the main reason he was elected into presidency.

Since I do not consiter myself to be very politically aware, I would like to see a debate on this matter so that I can make my own decision.


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He isn't even a year in to his Presidency, for the amount of time that he's been in office he's got the ball rolling on a lot of issues. Good on him, hope it continues with as little Red Resistance as possible.

I wouldn't expect much from Obama this term, afterall most of it will be filled with fixing up Bush's 8 year mess.

Sure, he hasn't done much, but he has set out to do a lot. His goals aren't exactly things that can be done in a week, they take time. He has a lot to do. He has to clean up Bush's 8 year mess, has to help the economy, and so many other things. These things take time, a long time. All he can do is do his best to get the snowball rolling and eventually it will get bigger and bigger. I think as long as there is time, things can be fixed.

He's trying to work on everything and make everything better, which isn't too good. He's making some progress though, but don't give him a Nobel Peace Prize yet.

He definantly did not deserve the Nobel Prize.

4 years feels way too long for a presidential term.

I'm no political expert, nor a debate expert (I tend to get my ass kicked in these topics) but..

In my opinion, George Bush didn't make all the right decisions during his presidency, and during the Obama campaign, Obama was called somewhat of a icon of hope for those hoping for him to change some of the things Bush had done in his presidency. Some people were and are under the impression that he's going to magically put the country back together. Don't get me wrong, I personally like Obama, but I feel as if a lot of the negative attention towards him is because he hasn't fixed the economy back together yet, and hasn't solved some high profile issues. He's not even a year into his presidency.

As for the Nobel Peace prize, I don't beleive his actions made him deserve a nobel peace prize, but rather the hope he's given a good amount of Americans, and the promises and steps he has made to bring America back onto its feet again.

Once he gets farther into his presidency i'll start to judge him more realisticaly, but as of now i'm really in a "take it as it comes" mode. I beleive he's going to help bring america back up, but it's too early to be expecting it all to be fixed and as good as new.

1 year in and he hasn't done anything too remarkable, and the nobel peace prize shenanigans doesn't count. Yeah, he's starting to make more progress with peace talks and the like, but nothing solid has emerged from them yet. As soon as the the words he speaks become solid actions, we can't really say he's doing good or bad.

Obviously the Nobel Peace Prize is shit. Believe it or not his most successful campaign (wrong term, I know, but you know what I mean) is settling the war, and he did a damn well better job than Bush did and that was the main object his presidency revolved around.

Heath care is a good idea, but it's going to be a bad execution. We need to wait a bit. We're in a depression, and we don't have a lot of money. The economy is steadily increasing, so if we wait a while we can actually execute it with some hope of it working. Obama needs to be reminded that this is a two trillion dollar plan. Now, this of course will be paid off over time, but it's still a hugeass chunk of money that will not look good on America's economy one way or another.

Personally, I would actually want to reform the healthcare and not completely change it. Reform is the wrong term for this kind of operation. However, seeing as how the majority of America wants this I might as just stop arguing about it and hope for the best.

So far, for Obama, I would grade him a 6/10. I don't agree a lot with his views but I think he's approaching foreign affairs very well (maybe a little bit too much ass kissing, we are America after all, we own (derp, terminology) most of these people), but he's trying to do to much at once. He needs to take it slower, or he will crash and burn later in his Presidential career.

Of course, he's no Roosevelt; Roosevelt made a massive overhaul to American government his first 100 days, but even those reforms were comparatively small to those later in his term.

The problem is that for some reason Obama doesn't have enough political capital. When Roosevelt was elected the Republicans had royally screwed the American economy and Roosevelt was able to get a mound of legislation passed. But it seems like for whatever reason that right now the Republicans still hold significant political water, at least in Congress. The smear campaign that they've been able to run has been very effective in limiting the Democrats' ability to pass legislation.

So yes, Obama hasn't done anything, but it's not really his fault. He needs another term and a lot more support.

>:|.

What events do you do?

This post doesn't make any sense.

It does if you know where i'm comming from.

I'm waiting for him to fix the economy crisis ASAP.

I've never been very secretive about my political standings, I support the Republican party and am registered as such... I didn't want either of the candidates in the last election to become president and I still do not support Obama... However I can't really say that I don't like him or hate him or anything like that because, so far atleast, he hasn't done enough to like or dislike him...

I think its great that he intends to do all of this stuff he is always talking about (some of it), but without any kind of action he really isn't proving to be much of a president...

LD. I did cross-x once and it was fun and I won the tournament, but it's too competitive and I'm too lazy to do the research.

I was also good at US Extemp, but I hated it.

Isn't debate fun?



You do realize that Obama can't just write out 2000 pages of legislation and just pass it day in day out, right? Especially since your party blocks his legislation.

I've been to one tournament that I didn't do too well in. I have one comming up this weekend in LD though. Probably do that and foreign extempt.

Are you traditional or more modern LD?

I can do both. I prefer progressive, but there are fewer judges that can judge it. It's better to learn traditional first since judge-adapting at the local level requires it anyway.

You can't undo 8 years of idiocracy in a fraction of the time